Questor 501 Posted September 28, 2010 THIS IS AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE FORUM, JASON. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InvaderSkooj 1 Posted October 1, 2010 Ty, people close to the external shell of the DS should be easy targets for the Transporters, IF, and only IF, the transporting ship is below the shield. But I think InvaderSkooj described it best as to what will happen to the MACOs. PosRep for that analysis... I forgot, a couple wiill die when they cant find a bathroom or get out of their ultratight pyjamas and suffer from sepsis, and kidney failure from not being able to expel waste Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted October 10, 2010 Guessing MACO use equement that is similer what they are using in Star Terk enterpise serises. The MACO use sniper rife of some kind TR-116 rifle next generation what using. For example MACO use plamas rifles not phaser rifles. The weapons they carried were design to weapons not possible tools. Nore made look toys they made thing take care busness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praeothmin 532 Posted October 10, 2010 Guessing MACO use equement that is similer what they are using in Star Terk enterpise serises. The MACO use sniper rife of some kind TR-116 rifle next generation what using. For example MACO use plamas rifles not phaser rifles. The weapons they carried were design to weapons not possible tools. Nore made look toys they made thing take care busness. Which still doesn't allow them to take over a Death Star because it's too big and has too many people crewing it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted October 11, 2010 Ok Death star has alittle over million people on it. So means the MACO using TR-116 having amount amo needed order take out 1,1,999 hundrend people.So in pratice have carrie few backpack full bullots. In pratice mean the MACO shotting stromtrooper thought out Death star. If they had amo need it be simple task. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted October 11, 2010 That's a staggering amount of ammo, Jason. Unless you propose they have personal ammunition replicators. (No such thing, just pulled it out of my ass) it's unlikely they could carry that many rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted October 11, 2010 Ok Death star has alittle over million people on it. So means the MACO using TR-116 having amount amo needed order take out 1,1,999 hundrend people.So in pratice have carrie few backpack full bullots. In pratice mean the MACO shotting stromtrooper thought out Death star. If they had amo need it be simple task. Are you on drugs? A million people? FOR A SPHERE 160 KILOMETERS IN DIAMETER (FOR THE SMALLER ONE!!!!)? YOU WILL NOW CALCULATE THE AMOUNT OF THREE DIMENSIONAL SPACE A 80 KM RADIUS SPHERE WOULD GIVE EACH MEMEBER OF A 1,000,000 PERSON CREW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted October 11, 2010 That's a staggering amount of ammo, Jason. Unless you propose they have personal ammunition replicators. (No such thing, just pulled it out of my ass) it's unlikely they could carry that many rounds. Actually, I'd be willing to grant ammunition replicators. It is an obvious extrapolation of existing technology. My only question would be how large they would be and how efficient they would be (power for the replicators and the replicators vs carrying the ammo.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted October 11, 2010 Actually, I'd be willing to grant ammunition replicators. It is an obvious extrapolation of existing technology. My only question would be how large they would be and how efficient they would be (power for the replicators and the replicators vs carrying the ammo.) UFP make protable matter replicators go this site for more information http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Portable_matter_replicator.jpgMy link So MACO should have no problem running out ammunition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted October 14, 2010 UFP has portable matter replicator for more information about them go to. My link So MACO should able portable replicator to get ammunition needed. So MACO no problem over running death star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted October 14, 2010 Yes, I heard you the first time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praeothmin 532 Posted October 14, 2010 UFP has portable matter replicator for more information about them go to. My link So MACO should able portable replicator to get ammunition needed. So MACO no problem over running death star. Wow, brilliant, except for the fact that this replicator is almost 3 feet high, and probably weighs a good 50-75 pounds. How do they transport it across the sation? Because they would eventually get discovered, Jason, if over 1 million people search for them. Plus, you can't fire many bullets per second. You need time to aim, and then fire, so killing everyone before they are discovered would be difficult. Taking over is not just a matter of ammo, Jason, but also a matter of logistics and strategy, of which your scenario is sorely lacking... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted October 14, 2010 Wow, brilliant, except for the fact that this replicator is almost 3 feet high, and probably weighs a good 50-75 pounds. How do they transport it across the sation? Because they would eventually get discovered, Jason, if over 1 million people search for them. Plus, you can't fire many bullets per second. You need time to aim, and then fire, so killing everyone before they are discovered would be difficult. Taking over is not just a matter of ammo, Jason, but also a matter of logistics and strategy, of which your scenario is sorely lacking... I talk much smell repulcator like this one For more information repulcator in could smell kinds My link So the MACO reason worry running out ammo if carries few these. Also the MACO know how hid behind walls or lock themselves into a room. So neither Vader or the Stromtrooper could get them easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praeothmin 532 Posted October 14, 2010 Yup, same one we're talking about, and according to Picard's leg at the back, it's between 2 to 3 feet tall, and is not easily portable, and they can lock themselves wherever they want, they will be found... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted October 15, 2010 Yup, same one we're talking about, and according to Picard's leg at the back, it's between 2 to 3 feet tall, and is not easily portable, and they can lock themselves wherever they want, they will be found... I do not think MACO is just going open door let stromtrooper walk when they have when TR-116s shot can thought walls.Also it very likley the MACO carrie.A site-to-site transporters like see Voyager both during for information please go this linkMy link. In pratice hit run they beam room lock door the whipe few hundrend stormtrooper beam the next room. The Death star crew stay more for long did that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praeothmin 532 Posted October 15, 2010 Aaaaaannnnnnddddd, having run out of brick walls to hit my head against, I will leave this debate until new brick walls are constructed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 7, 2010 I do not think MACO is just going open door let stromtrooper walk when they have when TR-116s shot can thought walls.Also it very likley the MACO carrie.A site-to-site transporters like see Voyager both during for information please go this linkMy link. In pratice hit run they beam room lock door the whipe few hundrend stormtrooper beam the next room. The Death star crew stay more for long did that. But being little bitch painters, the MAACOs will wonder how do they fire their guns and instead shoot themselves in the head, saving the universe of idiocy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted November 7, 2010 I do believe that joke has run it's course, Enigma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 7, 2010 Yup, same one we're talking about, and according to Picard's leg at the back, it's between 2 to 3 feet tall, and is not easily portable, and they can lock themselves wherever they want, they will be found... Maybe I am just being a little dense, but doesn't that look like a perspective shot? It looks like the machine is a feew feet in front of picard, which could mess up the scaling. Also, if you look closely, the bottom of the machine seems to be about level with the midway point of Picard's shin. Now, I am not familiar with this machine, and that picture is a bit wonky, so I might be way off. But that looks like it could be much smaller than 3 feet, to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 7, 2010 I do believe that joke has run it's course, Enigma. A far older joke (Jason) ran it's course a long time ago and yet he's still here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted November 7, 2010 Beside the amount the protable repulactor wieght might that important simple way MACO over come litttle problem Anti-grav sled. So even if the repulcator wieght to much just run around witht them. MACO use some anti grav sleds. My link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 7, 2010 Beside the amount the protable repulactor wieght might that important simple way MACO over come litttle problem Anti-grav sled. So even if the repulcator wieght to much just run around witht them. MACO use some anti grav sleds. You are a jackass. You think the little bitch painters are going to push that around *AND* shoot the stormtroopers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praeothmin 532 Posted November 9, 2010 Maybe I am just being a little dense, but doesn't that look like a perspective shot? It looks like the machine is a feew feet in front of picard, which could mess up the scaling. Also, if you look closely, the bottom of the machine seems to be about level with the midway point of Picard's shin. Now, I am not familiar with this machine, and that picture is a bit wonky, so I might be way off. But that looks like it could be much smaller than 3 feet, to me. Which is why I re-estimated its height at between 2 to 3 feet tall. Bottom line is, it's not going to be easily protable, and so Jason's scenario is... Inconceivable... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted November 14, 2010 MACO set portal force fields and then us phaser rifle to handle normal Star War stormtroopers and take Vader out with TR-116s. For all people still think Starfleet not have moble force fields. My link Beverly Crusher once set up a portable force field generator. It didn't work as intended becuase the emitter array was not set up to block the entire passageway. (TNG: "Chain of Command, Part I") Share this post Link to post Share on other sites