InvaderSkooj 1 Posted February 7, 2010 It was a no version of the Hypermatter reactor being tested for the DS that exploded. So it was not a normal Hypermatter reactor. No it was not normal, it was described in the novel as being an new "improved" hypermatter reactor. They were researching civilian applications since the beginning of the clone wars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ado Mortumee 500 Posted February 7, 2010 No, the Battle Lance was in the novel Death Star. It tried to use a hypermatter prototype and was promptly vaporized upon bringing it online. So yeah. I don't think that really works. Pg 160 of The Death Star. The Battle Lance. His nephew, Hora Graneet, had been a navy spacer on the Imperial- Class Star Destroyer Mk II class vessel, which had been selected for a shakedown cruise testing one of the improved prototype hypermatter Reactors. It says it testing an improved prototype, nothing about it being completely new on Starships. InvaderSkooj, No it was not normal, it was described in the novel as being an new "improved" hypermatter reactor. I didn't say it was a normal version, I said "So it was not a normal Hypermatter reactor." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted February 7, 2010 Highly unlikely given that the Battle Lance exploded when it tried to adapt a hypermatter reactor to a ship of its size in Death Star. I would also ask what ICS you're getting this from. EDIT: Oh wait, Complete Cross Sections. In that case, please post the material. You'd have to ask wookieepedia. They're the one that mentioned it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted February 7, 2010 Was it ever stated exactly what Hypermatter IS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted February 7, 2010 Was it ever stated exactly what Hypermatter IS? Matter that is better than normal matter, DUH!!!!! Its like quantum, but Star Wars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted February 7, 2010 Hmmmm well I suppose that's as good an explanation as I'm going to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted February 7, 2010 Was it ever stated exactly what Hypermatter IS? A miniature sun. That is pretty much the sum of it. AFAIK, they do not go into details about hypermatter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted February 7, 2010 A miniature sun. That is pretty much the sum of it. AFAIK, they do not go into details about hypermatter. I think Hyperspace was mentioned, but that may have been on a website or a wiki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InvaderSkooj 1 Posted February 7, 2010 It says it testing an improved prototype, nothing about it being completely new on Starships. I didn't say it was a normal version, I said "So it was not a normal Hypermatter reactor." I know merely emphasizing the point for mith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InvaderSkooj 1 Posted February 7, 2010 Was it ever stated exactly what Hypermatter IS?Tachyonic hyperspace zero point mumbo jumbo, also has complex mass measured in imaginary numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted February 7, 2010 A miniature sun. That is pretty much the sum of it. AFAIK, they do not go into details about hypermatter. Ah. A miniature sun. Interesting. That's exactly what a fusion reactor is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted February 7, 2010 Tachyonic hyperspace zero point mumbo jumbo, also has complex mass measured in imaginary numbers That's more like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted February 7, 2010 That's more like it. Didn't I just say it was Star Wars Quantum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted February 7, 2010 Yeah, something like that. This is the problem with this debate. It ends up to be just about quantifying some writes ill-informed nonsense. But it's still a worthwhile endeavor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mith 0 Posted February 7, 2010 A miniature sun. That is pretty much the sum of it. AFAIK, they do not go into details about hypermatter. So...it's fusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ado Mortumee 500 Posted February 7, 2010 So...it's fusion. No, it is giving us the idea of just how powerful the Hypermatter Reactors are by comparing it to the output of a small star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mith 0 Posted February 7, 2010 No, it is giving us the idea of just how powerful the Hypermatter Reactors are by comparing it to the output of a small star. In whose wet dream? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted February 8, 2010 In whose wet dream? Mith, mith, mith. You can't do that. I'm pretty sure that the only numbers we have for a hypermatter reactor DO come out similar to a small star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted May 3, 2010 I think it's time to take up the thorny issue of firepower. As InvaderSkooj mentioned in the past, the best Wars debaters make their points without referring to Saxton's fanboy wankfest. First, we should quantify from visuals and dialogue from the 6 films, and TCW. Then bring in the EU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ado Mortumee 500 Posted May 3, 2010 I agree. But lets make sure we have the other facts down first. Star Destroyers: Their big, pointy flying cheese wedges, and they cause pain by shooting at stuff (like Rebel Cheese sticks) a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khas 12,158 Posted May 5, 2010 Hey, I've seen that pic before! As for quantifications, they aren't too well designed. Considering that the bridge is extremely exposed, and according to the New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels, that dome on the bottom is where their reactor is housed. A Mon Cal Cruiser on the other hand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praeothmin 532 Posted May 5, 2010 Hey, I've seen that pic before! As for quantifications, they aren't too well designed. Considering that the bridge is extremely exposed, and according to the New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels, that dome on the bottom is where their reactor is housed. A Mon Cal Cruiser on the other hand... Plus their easily targetted "sensor domes" that also seem to house shield generators... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted May 6, 2010 Plus their easily targetted "sensor domes" that also seem to house shield generators... I have no idea why some people are still trying to argue that those are sensor domes. The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology has an entire article on those. They are shield generators, without any doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted May 6, 2010 I think because someone of authority in Lucasfilms stated that the domes house both sensors and shield generators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted May 6, 2010 It has to be better than that. Someone from Lucasfilm stating something doesn't hold water. In print or better yet onscreen is what matters. I can scan the pages of the book when I get home if you like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites