A brilliant idea, federation vs. federation

[InvaderSkooj 1]

The UFP is dumped in the SST universe in place of the Arachnids on their planets (planet P, Klendathu etc.)

 

 

 

This is primarily a ground fight.

[Questor 501]

The UFP is dumped in the SST universe in place of the Arachnids on their planets (planet P, Klendathu etc.)

 

 

 

This is primarily a ground fight.

 

 

 

nuclear hand grenades FTW.

[Jason 27]

Which stargate Federation talking about different once you know?

[InvaderSkooj 1]

Which stargate Federation talking about different once you know?

Book Starship Troopers, as in dudes jumping around in power-armor shooting 1.5 kiloton nukes at everything

[Praeothmin 532]

Book Starship Troopers, as in dudes jumping around in power-armor shooting 1.5 kiloton nukes at everything

 

 

 

Don't know the book Starship Troopers, but even the movie guys should win this.

 

They have armor, weapons with a much higher ROF, and use artillery...

 

Oh, and warfare training...

 

 

 

The UFP have Pyjamas, a more versatile weapon, and no artillery, except for the occasional photon mortar or grenade...

 

Oh, and practically no warfare training...

[Jason 27]

Are we talking about ground battle or can UFP us it Starfleet attack fighters to provide air cover and air to ground support. Because that will make a differnts as will. Other wise I agree for what we know about Star Terk UFP ground soldiers force only air force and foot soldiers.

[InvaderSkooj 1]

Are we talking about ground battle or can UFP us it Starfleet attack fighters to provide air cover and air to ground support. Because that will make a differnts as will. Other wise I agree for what we know about Star Terk UFP ground soldiers force only air force and foot soldiers.

Nope no air support. SOP for heavy resistance in SST is to nuke them from orbit. Since we know next to nothing about SST ships its not fair to allow it for one side but not the other

[Jason 27]

What about Galaxy class saucer section on the ground to aid fire support is that allowed.

[Tyralak 12,068]

Lolwut?

[Questor 501]

What about Galaxy class saucer section on the ground to aid fire support is that allowed.

 

 

 

Nuclear Hand Grenades blow it to bits.

[Tyralak 12,068]

On a side note. Am I the only one here who sees the absurdity of nuclear hand greandes? Granted, I haven't read the books. However, I seriously doubt a person could throw a nuclear hand grenade far enough to not be vaporized by it.

[Questor 501]

On a side note. Am I the only one here who sees the absurdity of nuclear hand greandes? Granted, I haven't read the books. However, I seriously doubt a person could throw a nuclear hand grenade far enough to not be vaporized by it.

 

 

 

They're not thrown, their fired out of a launcher, but "Nuclear Hand Grenade" sounds better than "Sub-Kiloton Nuclear Mortar".

[Tyralak 12,068]

Ah well, that makes more sense now. But even launching them as a mortar, it still doesn't seem the smartest thing. Are these some kind of "clean" nukes? Surely even if they were out of the blast zone, they would still get irradiated.

[Questor 501]

Ah well, that makes more sense now. But even launching them as a mortar, it still doesn't seem the smartest thing. Are these some kind of "clean" nukes? Surely even if they were out of the blast zone, they would still get irradiated.

 

 

 

Assuming the projector can fire them more than a couple hundred meters it shouldn't be an issue. Remember, the friendlies are usually in combat suits with a certain amount of hardening.

 

 

 

We're probably not talking more than a 30 m fireball and 840 m ionizing radiation radius. (assuming 1 KT) you can drop it further if they are actually sub-KT.

[InvaderSkooj 1]

The nukes carried by suits in SST are described as less than 2 kilotons , implosion devices, and fired from a rocket launcher.

[Jason 27]

THe question I have what going to happen if UFP has a few Galaxy class saucer section ground as both militry base camps and fire pads.

[Airlocke 12,014]

THe question I have what going to happen if UFP has a few Galaxy class saucer section ground as both militry base camps and fire pads.

 

 

 

 

 

Nuclear Hand Grenades blow it to bits.

[Jason 27]

You forget a Galaxy class saucer section even with out shield withstand nuclear attack. With shields it will be all the harder to destroy it. The phaser bank set strong stun setting could more dangers to the Starship troopers then knock out flying in air jetpacks.

[Questor 501]

You forget a Galaxy class saucer section even with out shield withstand nuclear attack. With shields it will be all the harder to destroy it. The phaser bank set strong stun setting could more dangers to the Starship troopers then knock out flying in air jetpacks.

 

 

 

Proof?

 

 

 

(This one will be funny!)

[Jason 27]

Watch the lass 5 minutes of this show see what talking about.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRNqYdg6Muk&feature=related

[InvaderSkooj 1]

THe question I have what going to happen if UFP has a few Galaxy class saucer section ground as both militry base camps and fire pads.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.c...0851BA9&index=0

 

 

 

 

 

Nukes.......lots of them.

 

 

 

Because if the UFP gets saucers on the ground the TF gets their ships in orbit, and they like saturation bombing with H-bombs and the occasional nova bomb

[Tyralak 12,068]

Agreed. An unshielded saucer section wouldn't last long.

[Questor 501]

Agreed. An unshielded saucer section wouldn't last long.

 

 

 

I really doubt a shielded one will, either.

[Tyralak 12,068]

You honestly think a ship with shields designed to fend off Quantum Torpedoes would have problems with a nuke?

[Questor 501]

You honestly think a ship with shields designed to fend off Quantum Torpedoes would have problems with a nuke?

 

 

 

One nuke? Not so much. Dozens of 50+ Megaton nukes - I thought we had expanded this to include stuff other than what's on the suits? Without a M/ARA to provide shitloads of power? Maybe.

 

 

 

Remember, the saucer doesn't have anti-matter power, just the fusion reactors.

 

 

 

Also, when you're playing with that level of weapons, simply fucking with the crust starts being feasible.

 

 

 

This is one of the reasons high end ground combat universes - like StarFIST and DMC, hell, even BATTLETECH - have VERY specific physics/histories. Once a certain amount of flexibility in the orbital level weaponry becomes available, ground combat becomes pointless.