Jason 27 Posted November 13, 2009 Intrepidstarship not the sames a Galaxy class starships and no cannon evidince that it can split into. Also Galaxy class forward shields were at 58% full power few hours after using the Main Defector dish as a weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 14, 2009 Intrepidstarship not the sames a Galaxy class starships and no cannon evidince that it can split into. Also Galaxy class forward shields were at 58% full power few hours after using the Main Defector dish as a weapon. You are a fucking moron. A complete retard with one brain cell is smarter than you. Deflector shielding is necessary for space flight and in no way relates to splitting starships. All ships have and constantly use deflector shields or else they need to constantly have the (battle) shields on. I told you to see what the effect of an inoperable deflector dish has on a starship while in flight. I told you to watch "Year of Hell" to see it in effect. It doesn't matter if it is a one piece Intrepid, a two piece Galaxy or a three piece Prometheus. They all disintegrate the same way. So in your quote "According to that picture that shows Stardrive defector shields they do not seem go beyond middle part of Galaxy class starship. It would unlike cover very little if any part section saucer of a Galaxy class starship." is incorrect as this does not involve deflector shields but the battle type shielding. Get it right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted November 14, 2009 Not true read the this My link and you may be mistake by the Navigational deflector dish. Read this page to see why I think you are mistaken. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Navigational_deflector Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 15, 2009 Not true read the this My link and you may be mistake by the Navigational deflector dish. Read this page to see why I think you are mistaken. http://memory-alpha....ional_deflector You idiot! Deflector shielding\deflector dish\navigational deflector shielding are all of the same and if you paid any attention to the link you posted, it is exactly what I said. It is to deflect anything in the ship's way in a non combat role. IT IS ON ALL THE TIME! IT IS NEVER LOWERED UNLESS THE CAPTAIN HAS A DEATH WISH! This is the first paragraph from the link you posted. The navigational deflector (also called the deflector dish, the deflector array or the nav deflector) is a component of many starships, and is used to deflect space debris, asteroids, microscopic particles and other objects that might collide with the ship. At warp speed the deflector is virtually indispensable for most starships as even the most minute particle can cause serious damage to a ship when it is traveling at superluminal velocities. (VOY "Alliances") Are you completely and utterly devoid of any intelligence? Do I ha...ve to br....ea....k up al...l of my wo....rd...s so yo...u ca...n un....der...sta.....nd wh....at I am wr....iti.....ng? Deflector shields are not the shields used in combat. Every starship has a shield grid designed for combat. How old are you Jason? 5? 7? 9? You cannot possibly be an adult for you are too dense. You posted wrong. The shielding you mentioned are the battle variant and not the one that is used for navigation. I swear, if you get any more dense, you'd collapse and form a black hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 15, 2009 Here's some quotes from BoBW Pt2 script. RIKER ... and as we anticipated, the blast burned out the main navigational deflector... we also have damage to shields and the reactor core. GEORDI We should be back up in eight to twelve hours, Admiral. The warp reactor where Geordi and Shelby are supervising repairs, checking panels, sensors... GEORDI Engine control processors are back up... SHELBY Accelerator coils are responding normally... GEORDI Forward shields at fifty-eight percent... aft shields -- (reacts as he studies sensors) Sensors must be down... SHELBY Checking... sensors are fine... no, aft shields have completely failed... dammit... auxiliary generators are out again... SHELBY The main navigational deflector is functional again... Sherbourne and Barclay are running through the final testing sequence now... RIKER The warp reactor core? SHELBY Reconstruction is proceeding normally... it's slow work. If we can nail down this shield generator problem, I agree with La Forge... we should be at operating capacity in two or three hours... Deflectors were working yet the shield generators (aft) were malfunctioning and the ship only forward shields at 58% (and it was up to that point since they started repairs). It took them from a minimum of ten hours to up to fifteen hours for the ship to be at operating capacity. Deflectors are not combat shields. They are navigational shields. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted November 15, 2009 Do you remember soft spots in Star Terk first contact on the Borg cube? How many Photon torpedoes would take to make hole that big on a Borg cube. The main defector dish would had to give off that kind of bag to able to destroy a Borg cube. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 15, 2009 What the hell are you talking about? How does this have to do with the fact that you cannot differentiate deflector shielding and battle shielding? Plus what you just said means nothing since the Federation had advance their offensive and defensive capabilities since BoBW, plus the fact that they had Picard who was able to tap into the Borg Collective and find their weak spots. Something they didn't have during BoBW. Without Picard, they would have lost. Besides, the nav deflector wasn't designed that way as a weapon as the last time they did that, they were stranded for several hours making repairs. Also Jason, it is DEFLECTOR not DEFECTOR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted November 15, 2009 Like said before the Galaxy class starships forward shields down to 58%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 15, 2009 Not down to 58%. UP to 58% and that was after almost half a day spent in repairs. Also, it is the Enterprise not Galaxy class starships. Just because the E-D could do it, it doesn't mean all of the other ships of the same type would end up with the same result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 15, 2009 You idiot! Deflector shielding\deflector dish\navigational deflector shielding are all of the same and if you paid any attention to the link you posted, it is exactly what I said. It is to deflect anything in the ship's way in a non combat role. IT IS ON ALL THE TIME! IT IS NEVER LOWERED UNLESS THE CAPTAIN HAS A DEATH WISH! This is the first paragraph from the link you posted. Are you completely and utterly devoid of any intelligence? Do I ha...ve to br....ea....k up al...l of my wo....rd...s so yo...u ca...n un....der...sta.....nd wh....at I am wr....iti.....ng? Deflector shields are not the shields used in combat. Every starship has a shield grid designed for combat. How old are you Jason? 5? 7? 9? You cannot possibly be an adult for you are too dense. You posted wrong. The shielding you mentioned are the battle variant and not the one that is used for navigation. I swear, if you get any more dense, you'd collapse and form a black hole. I believe he has said that he is a 25 year old disabled person. Might have been in the Isd curbstomp thread. Here it is. Post 86. http://www.clubasvs.net/forum/index.php/topic/188-isd-curbstomps-the-enterprise/page__st__80 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 16, 2009 I believe he has said that he is a 25 year old disabled person. Might have been in the Isd curbstomp thread. Here it is. Post 86. http://www.clubasvs....se/page__st__80 I see but disabled in what way? Physical or mental or both? Still why start or participate in a debate if you cannot understand what is going on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 16, 2009 Ask him. seconded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 17, 2009 Ask him. Well the question is already out there. It is up to him to reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted January 1, 2010 The warp core of the USS Voyager "is fueled by a matter/antimatter reaction, which produces a maximum output of 4,000 teradynes per second providing faster-than-light propulsion. I got this information from think linkMy link.While I know Galaxy class starship warpdrive most likley give off little smell amount enengy a maximum output. Not be by that much. About my disable it PDD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted January 1, 2010 Wow! I un-ignore you to see why you resurrected this, and its the funniest one yet! dyne = g/cm/s^2 Voyager power output = 4x10^16 dyne (Using your favorite source) Voyager Mass = 7x10^5 Metric Tons 7x10^5 Metric Tons = 1.4x10^9 kg = 1.4x10^12 g (4x10^16 g/cm/s^2)/(1.4x10^12 g)=2857.1428 cm/s^2 2857.1428 cm/sec^2 = 2.8571428 m/s^2 (2.8571428 m/s^2)/(9.80665 m/s^2) = .291347 g I would like to thank Jason for allowing me to prove that the Federation's fastest starship's accelleration is not high enough to reach orbit, much less do anything much in space. You are officially un-ignored until you stop being entertaining again. EDIT: I know that Dyne is a unit of force, rather than power, but I'm going to assume that this is the force capable of being exerted by the engines. I am also going to assume that this is net of any mass lightening effect, as otherwise the number is meaningless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted January 1, 2010 My link GEORDI We have a matter/antimatter warp reaction system, the most powerful in Starfleet... normally kicks plasma up into the terawatt range... what are you thinking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted January 1, 2010 My link GEORDI We have a matter/antimatter warp reaction system, the most powerful in Starfleet... normally kicks plasma up into the terawatt range... what are you thinking about? ... This could no be more off topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted January 1, 2010 No give us the amount of power that could be sending to main defector dish into the Galaxy class main defector dish. If the warp cores can generation about terawatt worth of normal times this means. This means the Galaxy class warp drive can generation more power more power if call on a lot more power for that matter. I did not think USS Enterprise D going at warp 9 normal. Geordi said need real power warp drive in order make main defector dish weapon work. Read this scrip did not believe me. GEORDI We're close. Few hours maybe... (before Riker has to tell him) I know I'll get it done in two... somehow... but Commander, I need serious power from the warp engines to make this weapon work. We're using all we've got just to keep up with them... Here the link got it fromMy link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questor 501 Posted January 1, 2010 Notice that he completely ignores my demolition of his previous point. He keeps making ridiculous no-limits assumptions, and the fact that he has no idea WHAT a terawatt and teradyne are make it even funnier. Here's a homework assignment for him... What's the most powerful laser in operation on the planet earth right now? (Hint: as much as it pains the Aggie in me to say it, it is at ut.) What's the power output 1 TW translate to in terms of explosions? EDIT: BTW: Is this an admission that photon torpedoes have a total power output of less than one TW, 'cus I think you should check with the other people on this board before you admit that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted January 1, 2010 He's pretty much ignored the whole damn thread. I think at this point he's having a running conversation with himself. I suggested this to him once...He ignored and started arguing a different point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InvaderSkooj 1 Posted January 2, 2010 But theres 5 billion gigawatts in there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted January 2, 2010 But theres 5 billion gigawatts in there Uh, NOOoooooo. That is 5 BaJILLION Gigawatts. HUUUUUUGE difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted January 2, 2010 He's pretty much ignored the whole damn thread. I think at this point he's having a running conversation with himself. I think he's ignored reality all together. He's in his own little world. Quite fitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 27 Posted January 3, 2010 1 terawatt = 10,000,000,000,000 watts in power. Name of the most power laser in world right now NIF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites