paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 Allrighty so lets get started with all these modifications shal we? The reputation system has gotten an overhaul. You will also now be able to see who gave you rep so you can plan your retaliation as need be. At the top you can click on Reputation History and it'll show you ALL the reputation given anywhere in the site. No one has any special reputation powers. ALL users have to follow these standards. So yes, that means even moderators can't go overboard in reputation (Yes I thought of you raycav when I set all this up ) There are 11 levels to reputations now. Each level you go up, the more you can rep (+ or -). Leading up to the grand daddy top level of them all, where you can REALLY start fucking with people. But I'll get into that in a moment These limits are per day. Level 0 (where everyone right now is at) - 5 positive rep's, 5 negative. Level 1 - 10 of each (Requires 20 rep) Level 2 - 20 of each (Requires 40 rep) Level 3 - 40 of each (Requires 60 rep) Level 4 - 60 of each (Requires 80 rep) Level 5 - 80 of each (Requires 100 Rep) Level 6 - 100 of each (Requires 200 Rep) Level 7 - 105 of each (Requires 300 Rep) Level 8 - 110 of each (Requires 400 Rep) Level 9 - 115 of each (Requires 800 Rep) Level 10 - 120 of each (Requires 1200 Rep) Please note the requirements are a rough estimate. I won't give out the exact numbers You can, if you want spend all your points giving yourself positive ratings. However people will also see it and most likely try and stop you Now of course, this is only part 1. Part 2 - New store system based on points. Once you've hit level 2 of reputation you can then access the store. So at this point, besides admins, only 2 people can see it.. Once you do, you will find you are given points per threads started, per your replies, and per your reputation. Once in the store you will have options available to you to fuck with your enemies. Please note that when you get negative rep, you also lose points. So, yeah this is going to be lots of fun As such, I should probably mention this - Please be aware that anything that violates the primary rules of this site (including pornographic images) will result in my foot going very far up your ass to the point you are so in the red in reputation you wont ever see the store again okie dokie? Now other features may come in at a later time but (besides donating to users HAH yeah like anyone is going to do that on this site) here are the things that high level rep war vets can purchase - Adjust member post count (be a dick and make them have less posts than they really do!) Change Members Avatar Change Members Signature Change Members Title (No I'm not adding the ability to change their display name that'd be just insane to deal with) Ability to pin a topic Ability to unpin a topic Random point lottery Random shop item Steal Points I won't say what levels these will all appear at as they are randomly scattered in the levels above 5. (You can access the store at 2, just cant do shit till 5 I'm a dick I know ) Each will cost xx amount of points and the only way to get said points is by posting (starting topics does win more btw), posting replies and by giving AND even taking reputation. (Giving rep and taking rep are much more lucrative ) Users that need to be moved to the next level will get added to that level shortly. Enjoy and have fun fucking with people Users are updated around twice daily if need be to be moved up or down on the reputation levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 To the only person above level 5 please note that due to the DB for whatever fucking reason being insanely slow i got too frustrated and said fuck it Your addons will be available shortly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enigma 521 Posted November 25, 2009 *removed retarded comment* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 you seriously like to bitch a lot don't you? Can you seriously do anything besides debate and QQ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 25, 2009 ...and it appears that I was right. I really DO despise this idea. Yea! Everbody, look! Paul is retarded. Hurray! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 ...and it appears that I was right. I really DO despise this idea. Yea! Everbody, look! Paul is retarded. Hurray! Hurray I'm retarded and you're retarded for not giving actual criticism besides saying it's a stupid idea! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 25, 2009 Hurray I'm retarded and you're retarded for not giving actual criticism besides saying it's a stupid idea! Well, to be honest, I'm simply not going to be a big fan of any kind of system that rates your activity in anyway, though, I felt my foot creeping towards my mouth, for about half a second, when I saw the dollar amounts next to people's names. I thought a store could be a decent idea, then I saw this thread and changed my mind. The idea of your system is, basically, that everyone posts and earns a good reputation, so that they can fuck with other people's reputation and points. You are, essentially, earning these points to keep other people from earning points or to make yourself earn more points. It almost seems pointless, especially when you consider the fact that this will inevitably piss someone off, because some people cannot handle other people fucking with them, and things could get bad. I think I see what you are trying to do, and I suppose it isn't a horribleidea, but I don't think it will work the way it is set up. I know that I, for one, am unlikely to use these points to fuck with people. Maybe if there was another option to spend them on for someone who doesn't just want to go around pissing people off. Like, maybe, the ability to buy a bigger avatar, or...something. I don't know, I just don't quite like this. Is that more helpful? Let me know if it isn't, I suppose I can be more specific. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 25, 2009 Quick question, what is the net worth? What does that do, because, somehow, I've managed to accumulate the second highest net worth, and I'm not sure what it does. Does IT have any bearing on your "war". Another thing, maybe I missed it, what is the limit for positive ratings you can give? I seem to have already reached my quota, and I haven't even used one on myself. Seems like a bit of a low limit. At this rate, no one will get to use the your store, because it is going to take a while to build a good rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 Well, to be honest, I'm simply not going to be a big fan of any kind of system that rates your activity in anyway, though, I felt my foot creeping towards my mouth, for about half a second, when I saw the dollar amounts next to people's names. I thought a store could be a decent idea, then I saw this thread and changed my mind. The idea of your system is, basically, that everyone posts and earns a good reputation, so that they can fuck with other people's reputation and points. You are, essentially, earning these points to keep other people from earning points or to make yourself earn more points. It almost seems pointless, especially when you consider the fact that this will inevitably piss someone off, because some people cannot handle other people fucking with them, and things could get bad. I think I see what you are trying to do, and I suppose it isn't a horribleidea, but I don't think it will work the way it is set up. I know that I, for one, am unlikely to use these points to fuck with people. Maybe if there was another option to spend them on for someone who doesn't just want to go around pissing people off. Like, maybe, the ability to buy a bigger avatar, or...something. I don't know, I just don't quite like this. Is that more helpful? Let me know if it isn't, I suppose I can be more specific. Quick question, what is the net worth? What does that do, because, somehow, I've managed to accumulate the second highest net worth, and I'm not sure what it does. Does IT have any bearing on your "war". Another thing, maybe I missed it, what is the limit for positive ratings you can give? I seem to have already reached my quota, and I haven't even used one on myself. Seems like a bit of a low limit. At this rate, no one will get to use the your store, because it is going to take a while to build a good rep. Thank you for the comments now let me try to ease some things about the system and so fourth to make you and possibly others a bit more at ease with it - Net worth has no real bearing on anything. It's just there for interesting information. These were the default systems that were in there. It's mostly to fuck with people but as I listed, there are some that really have no bearing unless you just want to have fun with them like the pin topic. As for adding NEW ideas that aren't basically "fuck u" type systems, SURE! I'm working on one right now that allows you to post html in your posts so incase you want to embed flash etc you can easily do so (granted abuse will be delt with fast). I'll look into the ability to add a bigger avatar as well Like I said, it's more about reputation than post counts. You gain like 1 point per post. So it's worthless. Reputation is where it counts. When you negatively rate someone they lose 50 points. HOWEVER the positive ratings make more than you lose, that's easily negated unless people hammer away at you. So while yes, posting adds points its no where near what you get from reputation. And no, unless a LOT of people hate you it's going to be difficult to fuck with you on a severe level just based on reputation. People need to learn to lighten up. NONE of the purchasable are perm. Soneone changes your sig wah, or your avatar who cares? It's all in fun. Even the admins aren't protected from being attacked so if you want to hit me or ty with new avatars, sig's etc then go for it =P (however change my sig and i will kill you ><) The pricing structure has been taken into consideration to make sure it's not as easy as it sounds to just start screwing with people. The cheapest thing adjusts post counts which is 400 points per use. The only two cheaper items are random points and steal points at 100 each use. The most expensive so far is pin/unpin topic at 800. However even if someone had a slew of points, they couldn't go trigger happy. Each item has limited stock and once sold they're done till they are restocked at least a week later. With the bigger stuff needing 2 weeks. So it is somewhat balanced. No one person can obliterate everyone not even if they had a ton of names repping them up. This was done for obvious reasons. To make sure no one can "take over" as it were. I know not everyone is going to be a fan of this, which is why nothing that anyone can do is going to be 100% perm to the point the user is fucked. And adding in new things people can do to others or themselves to help is definitely doable. I am also going to be adding in a new option people can buy to protect them from everything As for the limits per level of your ratings, that is listed above most people are too low they can only do 5 positive, 5 negatives per day. While that may seem low, if you just rep'd your own posts it'd take you 4 days to get to the next level. Assuming no one de rep'd you in the process. And obviously, as signs from the reputation history, not everyone just gives bad rep so it's easily possible to get up there. Two people are already in higher levels one being past level 5. The numbers can always be adjusted depending on feed back, it's not like it's hard coded or set in stone. So if other people feel they should be modified then no biggie Hopefully that answered a few questions you had and that others had but haven't asked. If you got more fire away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superanna 0 Posted November 25, 2009 Why? This kind of makes it less fun. I would personally prefer to have a way to opt out of this if you don't want to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted November 25, 2009 Just a note here. I won't be able to participate much in this until I get home this evening, but I would like everyone's input. I have already gotten PMs and even a phone call asking me about this system. They have ranged from requests for clarification to I'm taking my ball and going home. The latter really doesn't help things. As is quite apparent, we have a small but active user base. I have no interest in alienating any of you. If there is something you like or don't like about paul's proposal, please make it know and be specific. This is just an attempt to add some extra fun to the site. This was a surprise to me too. I still am not clear on all the details, however I make the final decisions so nothing will be set in stone until I say so. This place is here for fun, so we're just trying to find ways to make it more fun. All ideas are appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 Why? This kind of makes it less fun. I would personally prefer to have a way to opt out of this if you don't want to play. If you don't want to play then don't. It's simple Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 Since people are having a serious heart attack over this for whatever reason (Honestly people is it THAT hard to change your avatar/signature back if it gets changed? Cry harder please), there will be a new option added to those that don't want to play at all. This new user group will stop people from doing anything against you. HOWEVER, it also disables your ability to give reputation. Why? Well duh. If you're not going to play then why should you be able to help others that are playing? This CANNOT be undone. So if you wish to go down this road than fine. Once it's set the only way for you to be able to play again would be to make a new account. It will be added in a few minutes into the fu store. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 It's done once you purchase the item you will be moved to the "Protection" group. Where you will lose all ability to participate in the fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 25, 2009 I'm not going to get pissy about this, since it is not quite as bad as I thought, and I may use my points for new features, if they are added, so I'm not going to purchase this. Can you make a temporary one? One that acts sort of like a temp-ban from the person's profile? That would be interesting, that way you could protect yourself, and still fuck with other people. I may end up liking this idea...maybe. Only maybe. I'm sure I'll change my mind first time someone fucks with my sig, though. Eh, we'll see how it goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 25, 2009 I'm not going to get pissy about this, since it is not quite as bad as I thought, and I may use my points for new features, if they are added, so I'm not going to purchase this. Can you make a temporary one? One that acts sort of like a temp-ban from the person's profile? That would be interesting, that way you could protect yourself, and still fuck with other people. I may end up liking this idea...maybe. Only maybe. I'm sure I'll change my mind first time someone fucks with my sig, though. Eh, we'll see how it goes. Temp protection is in the works already Along with some new features. (Changing a profile picture size is easy. Setting avatar size is a bitch hehe) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elagabalus 0 Posted November 25, 2009 Wow, everybody needs to lighten up about this. Rep doesn't matter! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyralak 12,068 Posted November 26, 2009 Looks like Paul is already taking the opportunity to screw with my account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 26, 2009 Looks like Paul is already taking the opportunity to screw with my account. I was wondering what was up with that Avatar... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 26, 2009 Do not RESIST THE CHOCOBO!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 26, 2009 Do not RESIST THE CHOCOBO!!! I feel like smiting myself. I can't believe that I didn't recognize a chocobo.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 26, 2009 I feel like smiting myself. I can't believe that I didn't recognize a chocobo.... dude... how... wha... ya know i'm just so APALLED by that i'm not even going to lash out and change your avatar or give you neg rep... I... I just dunno anymore *sighs while walking off mumbling somethin about kids these days* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 26, 2009 dude... how... wha... ya know i'm just so APALLED by that i'm not even going to lash out and change your avatar or give you neg rep... I... I just dunno anymore *sighs while walking off mumbling somethin about kids these days* Firstly, you are not THAT much older than me, though it is irrelevant. The real sad part about this is that I love the FF games. Love them. So yeah, trust me, I feel worse than you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airlocke 12,014 Posted November 26, 2009 Okay, Paul, if I hadn't used up all of my rep points, I give you a couple. It looks as if you have put a hell of a lot of work into this system. I still am not going to be fucking with anyone, for the moment, but it seems that you even have a fucking banking system! And a stock sytem, as well. Really? That shit is crazy. Anyway, I'm curious as to how the Net Worth is figured. You and Tyralak seem to have very low net worths, even though you have decently high point values. Somehow, I have the highest net worth. How di that happen? I guess I just would like to know the precise formulas, if it isn't that big a deal. If it is, don't worry about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul 11,988 Posted November 26, 2009 raycav I said mods don't get special powers I never said admins don't Besides that fact I had to test things. the stock systems, etc will come into play down the line once I actually have time to really setup some wacky crap. Networth for me was borked because I altered mine manually XD From what I gather it takes into consideration posts, and money but the precise calculation I'll have to look into. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites