With help phase cloaking device the UFP short after star destory Romulan star EMpire make quick work out Star War Empire

[Tyralak 12,068]

Then answer me this, oh mighty shit head. How come in the original series, did the original Enterprise managed to reach Warp 15?

 

And in Star Trek TAS they reached Warp 36. Or is that not canon?

 

I don't know. It is possible that the TAS is considered canon.

 

 

 

The warp scale was supposedly re-calibrated in the 24th century. Also, with the exception of the episode "Yesteryear", TAS is not considered canon.

[the atom 0]

Actually I heard there's talk of cannonizing it.

[Tyralak 12,068]

Actually I heard there's talk of cannonizing it.

 

 

 

Interesting. Where was this?

[the atom 0]

Just a rumor. I don't know if there's any truth to it though.

[NX-01 519]

The warp scale was supposedly re-calibrated in the 24th century. Also, with the exception of the episode "Yesteryear", TAS is not considered canon.

 

 

 

It should be. Picard loved archaelogy. They could've had a TNG episode where he found and/or searched for a Slaver stasis box. Also I would have loved to see someone from the Cat alien ladies' race serving on Picard's Enterprise or DS9.

 

 

 

Maybe even a little T'Pol/M'Pres(?) action.

[Jason 27]

The warp scale was supposedly re-calibrated in the 24th century. Also, with the exception of the episode "Yesteryear", TAS is not considered canon.

 

Problem that thoery is fact trasn-warp was back Kirk days is differnt then what trasn-warp was during TNG and beyound. Caption Janeway openly state our ship nearly twice the speed that any starship Kirk days could gone. So instead must UFP starship going transwarp seed starfleet change warp-scale and chance mean traswarp. Even after UFP had perfect it still issues how many starships the UFP operation at any give time issues limmit number crystels. Group in UFP likely first allow used techology be section 31/starfleet intellegnce and than perhaps starfleet medical allow or war going MACO troop trasnports or must advance UFP warships. If in charge UFP intellegce or section 31 I choose spy Borg deep in terriory have it us brow a cloak device form the Romulon in return share any inforation we might have gotten in return on them or specail 8472 for that matter rather then sending resue starship get people USS Voyager home or send medical supplies area A to B much quicker. Also even UFP able perfect the techology up to point to danger us manned misson. UFP still put it to us. They could us deliver WMDs or for spying operations. Fire twenty and maybe one reach target UFP us intellegnce gathering on Borg or some other threat that way. Or deploy pro matter bomb suns other star systems detter any war form happen. Or UFP carry commandoe raids againist Borg some other enemy that they have.

[enigma 521]

Pure and utter gibberish.

[Jason 27]

Pure and utter gibberish.

 

Even if you are right Enigma it hardly relief the Star War Empire. UFP could open geodesic fold and send pro-matter bombs on missles into all the Empire star systems. So Star Empire not going us super weapons way destory UFP because UFP will likley respound back in kind.

 

 

 

You can read about at this link.

 

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Geodesic_fold

[the atom 0]

Even assuming they used that technology on a wider scale, and assuming they can do it over an indeterminate intergalactic distance, (and this is assuming quite a bit) they have to actually know where the fuck the Empire's critical worlds actually are. There's also the little snag that project Genesis was deemed a failure and cancelled. We don't actually know if they even have the technology. To think that they could suddenly resurrect it and then send it into mass production before the Empire puts a fleet of ISDs into orbit above Earth and demands their total surrender is moronic.

[Jason 27]

Even assuming they used that technology on a wider scale, and assuming they can do it over an indeterminate intergalactic distance, (and this is assuming quite a bit) they have to actually know where the fuck the Empire's critical worlds actually are. There's also the little snag that project Genesis was deemed a failure and cancelled. We don't actually know if they even have the technology. To think that they could suddenly resurrect it and then send it into mass production before the Empire puts a fleet of ISDs into orbit above Earth and demands their total surrender is moronic.

 

First this happen shortly after Romulan Star Empire star is destroy and conquered by Klingon Empire. Also treaty of Algeron would restricted UFP design phase cloaking device in applied to space fairing vessel. Other wise you have lot explaining to do with cloaking minefields that Sisko at that Wormhole. Also that starship basic holodeck with with a cloaking device on it why do you think it was underwater. I think had to do Issues of Treaty of Algeron. So the UFP l would have phase cloak device on mines in any case.

[the atom 0]

....What the fuck did any of that have to do with your claim about protomatter or geodesic folds? More importantly what the fuck does it have to do with anything anybody was discussing at all?

[Jason 27]

....What the fuck did any of that have to do with your claim about protomatter or geodesic folds? More importantly what the fuck does it have to do with anything anybody was discussing at all?

 

It has to do the fact UFP would almust shorly have phase cloaking deivces availiable for a while since the Treaty of Algeron only matters for space fairing vesles not mines.

[the atom 0]

Both experiments with phase cloaking have resulted in the horrible deaths of the crews of both ships it was installed in. To think they can mass manufacture it, let alone replicate it properly is retarded.

[enigma 521]

Both experiments with phase cloaking have resulted in the horrible deaths of the crews of both ships it was installed in. To think they can mass manufacture it, let alone replicate it properly is retarded.

 

 

 

For Jason, retarded ideas are great ideas.

[Jason 27]

Both experiments with phase cloaking have resulted in the horrible deaths of the crews of both ships it was installed in. To think they can mass manufacture it, let alone replicate it properly is retarded.

 

When USS Enterpise D used phase cloak device and no one get killed. IF you wish to see evidence please watch vidoe form

Also the UFP able repulcation cloaking device as least. Remember self repulcation mines that UFP used block Bajoring Worn-hole. It very likley they were using phase cloaking devices.

[the atom 0]

When USS Enterpise D used phase cloak device and no one get killed.

 

 

 

They used it for 5 seconds, and there was the very likely possibility they were going to de-cloak inside solid rock. Phase cloaking is still very much unstable prototype technology.

 

 

 

Also the UFP able repulcation cloaking device as least. Remember self repulcation mines that UFP used block Bajoring Worn-hole. It very likley they were using phase cloaking devices.

 

 

 

No it fucking isn't. The words 'phase' and 'cloak' are never once used in the same sentence during their entire wormhole plan. Phase cloaking was still causing lethal fuckups years after the Dominon war. If they could quickly and cheaply manufacture phase cloaking technology by then, they would have won the war in a week.

[Jason 27]

They used it for 5 seconds, and there was the very likely possibility they were going to de-cloak inside solid rock. Phase cloaking is still very much unstable prototype technology. No it fucking isn't. The words 'phase' and 'cloak' are never once used in the same sentence during their entire wormhole plan. Phase cloaking was still causing lethal fuckups years after the Dominon war. If they could quickly and cheaply manufacture phase cloaking technology by then, they would have won the war in a week.

 

 

 

Seska used subspace bubble to basic walk right though force field it likely works similar if not the same as a phase cloaking device.

 

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Subspace_bubble

[enigma 521]

It is not the same. Every warp capable ship also uses some type of subspace bubble for FTL speeds. What a fucking moron.

 

 

 

Subspace bubble does not equal phase cloak.

[Jason 27]

It is not the same. Every warp capable ship also uses some type of subspace bubble for FTL speeds. What a fucking moron.

 

 

 

Subspace bubble does not equal phase cloak.

 

Or right UFP need have molecular phase inverter and combine it with a cloaking device. http://en.memory-alp..._phase_inverter

 

 

 

Technology UFP have and be able us order working phase cloak device. Form what we can tell they can build them much smaller then Romulus and Klingon Empire can as well.Since UFP able build phase cloaking device that fit size suitcase. Also wish see more evidence watch this video

[Khas 12,158]

[Jason 27]

 

Lt Commander Geordi La Forge clearly stated phase inverter if wish to see the evidence please listen this video form 7 seconds to 9 seconds.

[the atom 0]

Proof that 'phase inverter'='phase cloak'?

[Jason 27]

Proof that 'phase inverter'='phase cloak'?

 

We talk fiction technology however do have another piece evidence. The Transphasic torpedo used by USS Voyager during End of games. Why USS Voyager be able to destroy one Borg Cube with only Transphasic torpedo while but need us two destroy another one. If you wish see evidnece watch vidoe form 1 minute and 11 secounds to 1 minute 33

 

seconds.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsqhZTvIT0k&feature=related

 

 

 

Unless they used phase device work like phase cloak but without the cloak effect allow torpedo to go right though the Borg Cube and hit the system to destroy a Borg Cube also why did Voyager

 

Also why was USS Voyager not destory fire one them inside that borg ship during Star Terk end of games.