Forerunner Capabilities Thread

[Ado Mortumee 500]

Now that Cryptum is out we finally have a lot more information about the Forerunners. Some interesting quotes below:

 

 

 

Page 51 Halo: Cryptum

 

 

 

 

The mining ship was an ugly thing, sullen, entirely

 

practical. Its belly was studded with unconcealed grap-

 

plers, lifters, cutters, churners. If the master of this craft so

 

desired, its engines could easily convert all of Djamonkin

 

Crater into a steaming tornado of whirling rock and ore, sift-

 

ing, lifting and storing whatever components it wished to

 

carry back.

 

 

 

 

Page 100 Halo: Cryptum

 

 

 

 

From those inner secrets, the Forerunners have

 

prodded sufficient power to change the shape of worlds,

 

move stars, and even to contemplate shifting the axes of

 

entire galaxies. We have explored other realities, other

 

spaces - slipspace, denial of locale, shunspace, trick geo-

 

detics, natal void, the photon-only realm the Glow.

 

 

 

 

Page 143-144 Halo: Cryptum

 

 

 

 

The sensor images were impressive and strange. I had

 

never seen a quarantined steller system before. Such capa-

 

bilities were rarely displayed to young Builders. A planetary

 

system is mostly empty, even the greatest of worlds being lost

 

 

 

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in the immensity of billions of kilometers of space. Like their

 

former human allies, the San'Shyuum had evolved on a

 

water-rich world not far from a yellow star, within a temper-

 

ate zone that allowed only a narrow range of weather. Now,

 

however, ten thousand years after their defeat, the system

 

was surround by trillions of vigilants that constantly wove

 

in and out of space-time, sometimes so rapidly that they

 

seemed to shape a soild sphere. This sphere extended to a

 

distance of four hundred million kilometers from the star,

 

and thus did not encompass four impressive gas giants whose

 

orbit lay beyond that limit.

 

 

 

 

Page 145 Halo: Cryptum

 

 

 

 

"They retired the Deep Reverence here," he murmured.

 

A magnified image appeared and was enhanced by specifi-

 

cations and other data. The Deep Reverence was an impres-

 

sive fortress-class vessel, fifty kilometers in length, its incept

 

data before the human-San'Shyuum war.

 

 

 

 

Page 197 Cryptum

 

 

 

 

The atmosphere below was a swirling soup of smoke and

 

fire. Warrior craft and automated weapon systems were

 

mostly to small to be visible, but I saw their effects - darting

 

beams of needle light, glowing arcs cutting across conti-

 

nents, gigantic, stamplike divots punched into the crust and

 

then lifted up, spun about, overturned. I had never seen

 

anything like this - but the Didact had.

 

[Praeothmin 532]

The Forerunners were impressive, as was shown in Halo: Legends...

[Ado Mortumee 500]

The Forerunners were impressive, as was shown in Halo: Legends...

 

 

 

Halo: Legends has everything but the most basic things wrong now.

 

 

 

 

You do not want to draw the Forerunners into war against you. They are ruthless. And at least a few of their leaders like the Master Builder are so ruthless that even if you pose zero threat beyond a single star system like the San'Shyuum... you'll find a Halo ring in orbit ready to destroy you

 

 

 

Halo rings are a lot more flexible than originally thought, able to target a single planet (and slag their surface as seen with the Precursor hub world - the only reason it wasn't truly slag was becuase of the insane durability of Precursor structures) or star system on its lowest levels.

 

 

 

 

A few other things from the book:

 

 

 

1. Modern Fortress-class vessels are twice the size of the Deep Reverence.

 

2. Modern Fortress-class vessels have weapons in at least the Megaton range as seen when they quickly

crave up Halo Installations above the Forerunner capital

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3. Forerunner starships are able to cross tens of thousands of light years in a few hours. They are also able to track vessels across vast distances since the Didact

during one random jump took them 10,000+ LY above the galactic plane to hide their trail long enough to reach the San'Shyuum system.

 

 

4. The Forerunners have a vast Slipspace portal network throughout their empire. It can be overtaxed though by too much traffic

as seen during the battle above the Forerunner capital when the bulk of the Installations attempetd to flee.

 

[Ado Mortumee 500]

More:

 

 

 

1. Halo Installations are now 30,000 kilometers in diameter.

 

 

 

2. Quote about the Forerunner capital:

 

 

 

 

It is with difficulty that I describe the capital as it was

 

then, so little like anything in your experience. Imagine a

 

 

 

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planet a hundred thousand kilometers in diameter. sliced

 

latitudinally like one of Risers favorite fruits. Allow those

 

slices to drop in parallel against a plate. The slices are then

 

pierced through their aligned lower rims with a stick, the

 

plate is removed, the slices are fanned out in a half-

 

circle. Now decorate each slice, like a round stair step,

 

with an almost infinitely dense array of structures, and

 

surround it with a golden swarm of transports and senti-

 

nels and a dozen other varieties of security patrols, thick

 

as fog...

 

 

 

[Note: When under attack the capital (like the Citadel in Mass Effect) can be closed]

 

 

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Forgot this before: The Master Builder did overstepped his authority when he wiped out the San’Shyuum home system with a Halo. He was put on trial at the capital shortly before Mendicant Bias attacked. Doesn't change the fact they will literally blow you back to the stone age if you anger them.

 

[Mr. Oragahn 0]

 

It is with difficulty that I describe the capital as it was

 

then, so little like anything in your experience. Imagine a

 

 

 

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planet a hundred thousand kilometers in diameter. sliced

 

latitudinally like one of Risers favorite fruits. Allow those

 

slices to drop in parallel against a plate. The slices are then

 

pierced through their aligned lower rims with a stick, the

 

plate is removed, the slices are fanned out in a half-

 

circle. Now decorate each slice, like a round stair step,

 

with an almost infinitely dense array of structures, and

 

surround it with a golden swarm of transports and senti-

 

nels and a dozen other varieties of security patrols, thick

 

as fog...

 

 

 

[Note: When under attack the capital (like the Citadel in Mass Effect) can be closed]

 

 

 

 

Oh god. Drawing please!

[InvaderSkooj 1]

Alas canonically they still have only as much sense as a box of rocks, and are still below Culture level

[Praeothmin 532]

Alas canonically they still have only as much sense as a box of rocks, and are still below Culture level

 

 

 

Yeah, but, to be honest, from everything I've read on any board, is there anything equal to, or above, the Culture?

[enigma 521]

Yeah, but, to be honest, from everything I've read on any board, is there anything equal to, or above, the Culture?

 

Time Lords?

[Praeothmin 532]

But they're not a space-faring civilization, no?

 

Like, the Q are also more powerful, but they're like only a handful from what we've seen or could infer from ST...

[enigma 521]

But they're not a space-faring civilization, no?

 

Like, the Q are also more powerful, but they're like only a handful from what we've seen or could infer from ST...

 

 

 

The Time Lords are a space faring race. What do you think the Tardis does? Haven't you watched any Dr. Who shows?

[Khas 12,158]

The only planet the Time Lords occupied was Gallifrey. And if I'm not mistaken, their normal ship weapons aren't ZOMG-powerful. It was only during the Time War that they tried to destroy their universe in order to ascend, when they really could've just gone to the Stargate universe and learned the technique from the Ancients.

 

 

 

Also, the universe-busting superweapons just came right the fuck outta nowhere in DW. And they had that moronic "Journey's End" as the sequel to the awesome "Daleks in Manhattan". Even my dad, a long-time DW fan, said that that episode was stupid.

 

 

 

But back on topic, the Xelee could give the Time Lords a good whooping.

[Praeothmin 532]

The Time Lords are a space faring race. What do you think the Tardis does? Haven't you watched any Dr. Who shows?

 

 

 

 

 

Nope, tried to watch, got bored halfway through an episode...

[enigma 521]

Nope, tried to watch, got bored halfway through an episode...

 

 

 

Two big things about the Tardis is that it managed to tow Earth back into it's proper orbit after the Daleks had teleported it for its ultimate weapon.

 

 

 

Managed to tow a ship while near the eye of a black hole without any difficulties.

[Praeothmin 532]

Impressive, but how does that compare to the Culture?

 

Do they have comparable feats?

 

 

 

 

[InvaderSkooj 1]

The Culture would kick the Timelords/ TimeWar Era Daleks asses in direct combat, right up until the instant they cease existing from time fucking/reality bomb.

 

The Xeelee can wipeout the Culture with numbers or timedickery or throwing a galaxy at the Culture's

[enigma 521]

Impressive, but how does that compare to the Culture?

 

Do they have comparable feats?

 

 

 

Time lock the Culture or even time loop them for all eternity. Think Ground Hog Day.

 

 

 

There's also the fictional generator.

The Celesti fictional generator was a Gallifreyan device created by the Celestis. It was capable of altering reality in a fundamental way allowing them to break all the sorts of laws in nature turning imagination into reality.

 

 

 

They've also claimed to have invented the black hole.

 

 

The de-mat gun is a weapon of mass destruction that removes its target from space-time altogether.

 

 

 

As a means of extreme sanction, the Time Lords have also been known to place whole planets into time-loops, isolating them from the universe in one repeating moment of time as well as hurling planets from one galaxy to another using a weapon referred only as a magnetron in the episodes Trial of a Time Lord and Journey's End.

 

 

 

In the Eighth Doctor Adventures novel The Ancestor Cell by Peter Anghelides and Stephen Cole,[52] the Time Lords are shown to house other weapons of mass destruction in a stable time eddy known as the Slaughterhouse. In the Doctor Who Annual 2006,[53] a section by Russell T Davies says that during the Time War, the Time Lords used Bowships (used against the Great Vampires in an ancient war), Black Hole Carriers and N-Forms (war machines first mentioned in the Virgin New Adventures novel Damaged Goods,[54] written by Davies).

 

 

 

N-forms

 

They were machines that were programmed to destroy their enemies and were quite capable of destroying a planet to accomplish their goal. They were capable of attaching themselves to objects on a molecular level and opening tiny dimensional rifts inside the scarred brains of people that ingested the compound to which the N-Form had attached itself. This allowed them to emerge from thousands of points rather than from a single large, potentially continuum destroying rift. This was done through the N-Forms ability to slip between dimensions allowing their extrusions to kill their enemies.

 

 

 

There is a lot that they can do and their technology is heavily temporal based. They can also create and destroy stars and use black holes as power sources. They do not need to heavily rely on weapons when they can time loop their opponents out of existence.

 

 

 

In a dick waving contest, the Culture will brag about having the biggest dick only to find that the TLs have reversed time around the Culture's dick into a child's size.

[Mr. Oragahn 0]

Doctor Who, where you can run the entire US's electrical power through the thin cables running behind a computer.

[Khas 12,158]

Dr. Who: Archenemy of Common Sense.

 

 

 

I'm serious. The Doctor picked people with no diplomatic experience to serve as ambassadors to lizard people living inside the Earth who got pissed at Britain and declared war on humanity for drilling too deep and waking them up, but had no complaints about the Osterhagen key nukes, which would have to be 300 miles across each to rip apart Earth. How the fuck do you keep that secret? It's like the head writer said: "Hmmm, what have Berman and Braga done, and how can I make it dumber?".

[enigma 521]

Dr. Who: Archenemy of Common Sense.

 

 

 

I'm serious. The Doctor picked people with no diplomatic experience to serve as ambassadors to lizard people living inside the Earth who got pissed at Britain and declared war on humanity for drilling too deep and waking them up, but had no complaints about the Osterhagen key nukes, which would have to be 300 miles across each to rip apart Earth. How the fuck do you keep that secret? It's like the head writer said: "Hmmm, what have Berman and Braga done, and how can I make it dumber?".

 

 

 

More to the point, the Lizard people have done nothing whenever Earth was threatened. Sontarans, Daleks, Cybermen, The Master, etc.... and the Lizard people just ignored it all.