Borg vs. Tyranids, with a twist!

[Khas 12,158]

On one random Earth-sized planet colonized by a few billion humans, the sky darkens. Giant spores fly down, raining Tyranids on the unsuspecting populace, and begin attacking and devouring the native life-forms, absorbing and assimilating their DNA. The sky darkens again, as a MASSIVE Borg armada enters the system, and beams billions of Borg drones (standard, medical, engineering, and tactical) down to the surface, and they go after the planet's population and technologies. Now, here's where the twist comes in. All over the planet, there is a substance that has both beneficial and lethal properties. A substance called Tiberium.

 

 

 

Now, a three-way war between the Borg, the Tyranids, and the human colonists erupts. The humans have all the technology the Command & Conquer (Tiberium Series) humans do. How does this go?

[enigma 521]

From what I understand about the Tyranids, they'll win this scenario.

[Khas 12,158]

At least, on the ground they might. Space is another story, as Tyranid ships are stated to be weak by 40K standards, and the latest edition of Rogue Trader mentions that starships in 40K use kiloton-level weapons (except for Exterminatus). And a Borg armada big enough to beam down billions of drones should at least be twenty thousand cubes strong.

 

 

 

And then, there's the nature of Tiberium.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberium

[enigma 521]

The thing is that the spores alters the planet to make it more palatable to the Tyranids. I suspect that the Tiberium could be incorporated in some way. Reading up on Tyranids, on the ground, the Borg's "DNA" will be assimilated and the drones reduced to Tyranid chow. As for space combat, they may be weak compared to the rest of the 40K universe but they are tough and persistent. They don't have shields or your typical energy weapons but they do use acid and chemical attacks to damage\eat away at enemy ships. Plus they do have huge ships that are involved in melee attacks. Large claws to rip ships into pieces.

 

 

 

They do use Carnifexes when boarding ships and they are nasty motherfuckers. Read about them here. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Carnifex#.TrYKuXJFA2Y

 

 

 

Much like Orks, once the Tyranids have entrenched themselves on a planet, only an Exterminatus can eliminate them.

[enigma 521]

The Tyranids essentially win their battles because they use the bodies of their enemies as fuel to create more of themselves. Think of it as a zombie infestation but a hell of a lot worse. The longer you fight them, the more material you are given them to create more of themselves.

[enigma 521]

Imagine that happening in space. The Borg have a horrible reputation of doing nothing when boarded until it is too late. They'll be eaten from the inside out of the Cubes.

 

 

 

The Hive fleet has billions of various Tyranids at their disposal and can create many more. They can unleash innumerable boarding ships that the Borg will not be able to shoot them all down in time. Quite a few will break through and begin feasting on Borg stew.

[Khas 12,158]

Assuming, of course, the 'nids can board the Borg ships. In space, those 20,000 cubes (at the minimum) are going to be wreaking havoc on that Hive Fleet. And I did say that there are billions of Borg drones on the planet.

 

 

 

And Tiberium is highly toxic to all organic life.

[enigma 521]

'Nids can and will board Borg ships. Millions of boarding crafts would be launched and the Cubes will only be able to destroy a small fraction of them. Plus, I doubt the Borg have encountered an opponent that uses acid and other caustic chemicals as offensive weapons. So I do believe that they can board.

 

 

 

Plus the Tyranids would cut off all forms of FTL communications with their "Shadow of the Warp". So who knows if this could also sever the Borg's connection to the queen.

 

 

 

Also, if we're to give the Borg 20,000 cubes for an attack on a single M Class planet (without the Tyranids, isn't that overkill?), then we can give the Tyranids 20x their capital ship numbers to even things out as a typical Hive Fleet consists of about 1,000 capital ships.

 

 

 

You also have to remember that the Borg have a tendency to ignore intruders until it is too late. Once the 'Nids board, it is all over.

 

 

 

Oh and as for the Tiberium? It doesn't kill all life, a few unfortunate humans have been mutated into Visceroids. All the 'Nids need to do is consume several Visceroids and the new generation of 'Nids gain Tiberium immunity and be able to use Tiberium Sprays.

[the atom 0]

Space is another story, as Tyranid ships are stated to be weak by 40K standards, and the latest edition of Rogue Trader mentions that starships in 40K use kiloton-level weapons (except for Exterminatus).

 

 

 

What's the quote exactly? I think I may know what you're talking about, and I believe the context is refering to orbital support for people who aren't otherwise terribly useful as drifting ashes, a.k.a whoever they're trying to support.

 

 

 

In any case, cherry picking specific incidents to support your argument is no less intellectually dishonest then say, warsies snipping from ICS, or somebody getting ST firepower yields from the piddly bombardment in First Contact.

[Khas 12,158]

Except for 40K, there is no set canon:

 

http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=sv&safe=off&source=hp&q=%22he+agreed+that+some+points+in+certain+novels+could%2C+perhaps%2C+have+benefited+from+the+editor%E2%80%99s+red+pen+%28a+certain+multilaser+was+mentioned%29+but+was+at+pains+to+explain+that%2C+just%22&pbx=1&oq=%22he+agreed+that+some+points+in+certain+novels+could%2C+perhaps%2C+have+benefited+from+the+editor%E2%80%99s+red+pen+%28a+certain+multilaser+was+mentioned%29+but+was+at+pains+to+explain+that%2C+just%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=5273l7017l0l7369l4l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1280&bih=702&cad=h

 

 

 

Any one of those sites should provide some explanation.

[the atom 0]

My point exactly. One source doesn't override everything else (which I must say irritated me greatly at first). Ergo, Simply because one source said they used kiloton weapons, doesn't really mean that they're only capable of using kiloton weapons.

[Khas 12,158]

Oh and Enigma, about the Borg not recognizing intruders, don't you remember in First Contact when Picard said that the Borg ignore targets until they consider them a threat? Yeah, well, if 'nids' behaviors are anything to go by, they're going to recognize them as a threat IMMEDIATELY if they board the Borg ship.

[the atom 0]

Which won't help them a lot sadly. Unless they can just keep continuously beaming each and every tyranid organism into space (which they have to keep doing while fighting the hivefleet itself mind you), they'll get eaten from the inside out.

[Khas 12,158]

I was just disproving Enigma's point that the Borg would ignore the 'nids.

[the atom 0]

Fair enough.

[enigma 521]

I was just disproving Enigma's point that the Borg would ignore the 'nids.

 

 

 

Even if they did not ignore them the outcome would still be the same. The drones would become the carnifexes' new diet. (Of course there would be more than just the carnies' boarding the cubes obviously. )

[the atom 0]

Fuck, the tyranid bioships would be eating the cube, never mind the critters.

[enigma 521]

They can't adapt to organic weapons, at least as far as we currently know. How are they going to adapt to acid that eats them alive? Or suddenly unable to stand as a chemical compound corrodes their skeletal structure?

 

 

 

Borg ships cannot adapt to being ripped apart by pincers from a bioship. Go away Jason. You are fouling up a perfectly good topic.

[Khas 12,158]

The Borg could adapt to the Tyranids' bio-plasma (yes, the 'nids have organic plasma weapons), but nothing else really.

[enigma 521]

The Borg could adapt to the Tyranids' bio-plasma (yes, the 'nids have organic plasma weapons), but nothing else really.

 

 

 

Still not enough to defeat the 'Nids and also there's a limit to how much a drone can adapt to a weapon. Could a drone be able to withstand a bio plasma attack from a huge carnifex?

[Jason 27]

Still not enough to defeat the 'Nids and also there's a limit to how much a drone can adapt to a weapon. Could a drone be able to withstand a bio plasma attack from a huge carnifex?

 

Enigma your guessing Borg do not have ground combat vehicles. We never seen Borg invold in ground combat that Borg collective was involved in. Yes were TNG episode were some free drone carry out attack UFP outposts and part searching Data away team get caught. They real very smell number drone available in that episode few hundred maybe few thousands compare Cube carries millions drones it possible only cube carry ground vehicles. After deal specail 8472 it likley if Borg did not have ground vehicles they started to build them.

[the atom 0]

I also find it 'likely' that you are in fact a dog that has learned to use a keyboard. The sad part is that I'm pretty sure that my hypothesis holds more weight then yours.

[enigma 521]

Enigma your guessing Borg do not have ground combat vehicles. We never seen Borg invold in ground combat that Borg collective was involved in. Yes were TNG episode were some free drone carry out attack UFP outposts and part searching Data away team get caught. They real very smell number drone available in that episode few hundred maybe few thousands compare Cube carries millions drones it possible only cube carry ground vehicles. After deal specail 8472 it likley if Borg did not have ground vehicles they started to build them.

 

 

 

Retard, a Hive fleet has billions of various types of Tyranids available to them and they can easily create more from dead drones. You fail and get the hell out of this thread!

[the atom 0]

The Borg could adapt to the Tyranids' bio-plasma (yes, the 'nids have organic plasma weapons), but nothing else really.

 

 

 

Weren't plasma weapons suggested as an effective anti-Borg weapon?

[Jason 27]

Weren't plasma weapons suggested as an effective anti-Borg weapon?

 

Plasmas weapon in practice useless against the Borg also two not show piece of evidence that the Borg could assimilation some Tyranids.