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1) It would really help me follow the train of logic if you quoted the part of my post you are replying to. 2) How does that address my point, other than providing evidence that there is damage across all arcs, not just to the forward ones. This point actually supports my interpretation of events.

Which is only relevant if phasers work by DET, which they demonstrably do not. How is Darkstar's site relevant to DET? He's evaluating impact resistance. You do know that you can optimize armor against a certain kind of attack, right? Anti-knife armor is not the same as anti-bullet armor.

This ones interesting in that Weber likes masses and velocities, but doesn't quantify energy all that much. Honorverse ships are at least larger.

A) Why do you think that there is not an interconnect between the stardrive and the saucer? How do you know that 42% of the "forward shields" are not provided by emitters in the stardrive section?

Thanks.

You don't remember the dozens of times that starfleet officers/klingons/romulans/cardassians/aliens of the week take cover behind barrels or crates? Well that sucks... I'll have to find that, I don't remember that. How would it not explain the spear bashing issue? You get hit with a long enough lever arm and your brain hits the sides of the cranial cavity... there's not much you can do to prevent that while maintaing the ability for the head to move. Look at the problems the military has developing helmets that prevent TBI. How do phasers act by DET? You can't claim DET and then throw newton out the window. All the evidence points towards phasers acting on some kind of Nuclear Disruptive Force, which emits... something... that causes hit people to get knocked backwards.

Actually, I didn't realize that was in Mod mode. Backing off now.

Hey, I'm this [] [] close to misting his posts.

I just finished Destroyermen 3: Maelstrom. Am now going to read LeMay.

Wait, is this a Shep style showtrial? Or are they actually trying to pretend that there is justice in an internet forum trial?

Jason, you've been smacked around on this before. Please demonstrate that the damage came from splash damage, rather than feedback damage internal to the ship.

Except for the fact that phaser fire seems to have trouble with plastic/ceramic, I'd agree with you. Also, where do we see the most likely ceramic stormtrooper armor fail to stop ewoks? As I recall, they bashed them on the head, and shot them with arrows into the joints. The blunt impact isssue is one we know about. The real difficulty is that there is no way to cushion the inside of the skull. Thirdly, since SW blasters are implied to use DET, one would assume that the armor is designed to defend primarily against energy weapons.

Just to point out, phaser beams are stopped by a number of different things. One of the big things about phaser beams is their selective interactivity. Given the selective interactivity of the NDF, I'd be very skeptical of phaser beams working on any new material, in STuniverse, SWuniverse, or SGuniverse (I made a funny).

I think you are referring to the Complete Cross Sections, which, as far as I know, is just a compilation of the other four books.

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Right, and since the navigational deflector is most likely a related system to the shields, and we know that they are both related to the main reactor, the damage could have fed back from the deflector system, through the reactor, and to the shield system. One place we know Federation technology is deficient is in circuit breakers.

Yeah, and on some things that's good advice, but you're just going to get beaten on here with that attitude towards the physics based issues. I'd stick to literary criticism until you get a better grasp of physics. Physics isn't that hard as long as you can do the math. So the blast overloaded the main deflector, and fed back in to to related systems? How does this in any way imply that the energy hitting the borg cube did that damage? Sounds to me like they fused some circuit breakers. Seriously, how old are you? You don't seem to be thinking through any of your positions logically. You just presented evidence that refutes one of your original premises, i.e. that the Enterprise deflector could channel that much energy. Obviously it couldn't.

He also has not shown that a Star Destroyer can't take the energy he is talking about.

A philosophical discussion between the two would be interesting. Beyond that, we've never seen any evidence of Yoda being smarter than average, just wiser. ETA: and darn little evidence of that either, other than dialog and mystical sayings.

Obviously. Having not taken any physics, what makes you think you have any ability to argue in a physics based vs. thread? Is this a concession?

I think that those who are making the statement need to present evidence. Tyralak has presented his.

I'm going to interpret his latest post as a concession, as he hasn't answered any of the issues I've brought up other than his (changing) number.

Having not watched the Clone Wars series, which parts of ICS were retconned? The only retconning that I remember hearing about were some of the MandoWank[TM Karen Traviss].

So I wrote a multi-page rebuttal, and you ignore it to try and correct your own typo? Can I take that as a concession on all other points raised in my rebuttal? Direct Energy Transfer (DET), Kinetic Energy Transfer (KET), Nuclear Destructive Force (NDF) (Otherwise known as phaser-magic), plasma impact? Just curious, how old are you? Have you taken any physics?