InvaderSkooj

Defenders, delicious. Too bad thrawn is going to die.

looks alright

lol Disney canon is almost the same. ICS is a crutch. Amazing consistent with the 100 megaton missiles from TCW lol

lol. Most the vs sites are pretty dead now. Or full of pricks. SDN is pretty much dead pricks included

crushed like always

Doesn't mean much, the books and movies are equally canon

Hmm 100 megaton ground missiles sounds in line with othe ICS ground weapons

Too bad they always forget to issue them when they would be useful

This is the difference, IMHO. People go to SDN to hear their own ideas echoed back at them. People go to SFJ for polite, but passionless discussion. People come here for interesting debate, disgusting humor and verbal abuse.

SFJ is the same way only with ST and pretending to be nice. How many people there who argue against the general consensus are taken seriously?

 

 

 

 

 

To each their own, but I find that Miss Manners debates generally devolve into talking past each other. Especially without an active, and impartial mod staff that is empowered to close topics and declare winners if people don't obey rules.

 

 

 

Of course, I've never really thought that moderation is that great an idea, hence my preference for USENET. I've always thought the relatively unique "style" of ASVS came about as a way to deal with the heavy use of killfilters. The more outrageous or insulting a statement, the more likely it was to be quoted.

SFJ is the same shithole it its always been.

 

 

 

 

 

I suppose you are referring to my old mind play about possibility of UFP using ultra-dense deuterium, which was just that - mind play.

Mind play you clung to like a child holding a security blanket. When the majority of your adoring fans at SFJ weren't giving you the cheerleader routine you expected, your calc numbers went down until you got your cheerleader sqaud

But if this is what you are asking, then yes, E=mc^2 still works.

Through technobabble apparently since that is your excuse for the DS weapon being technobabble

 

 

 

 

 

~120 kilometers. Scaling here.

And just where in canon(non EU) is the MF stated to be 22.5m wide? Scaling is flawed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~180 kilometers, but I'll probably have to do actual scaling someday.

Based upon your unsourced size for the MF and unscourced assumption between the DS I and DS II this scaling is also flawed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My scaling suggestssize of ~12 kilometers.

Where in canon pray tell is a rebel transport stated to be 90m long? Also where is your scaling showing the trench of an ISD is the same size as the trench on the Executor? More flawed scaling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Care to elaborate? Empire has up to 150 000 inhabited systems, but I don't think it has more than 300 million to few billion men in army total. Plus it does not recruit aliens, wich reduces its recruitment base, althought it is still vastly greater than that of UFP.

Your own quotes say the Empire is a million worlds. Source for number of Inhabited systems?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really? So, you REALLY think that MOVIES, MOVIE NOVELIZATIONS, TCW, and RADIO PLAYS are part of EU? Beacouse it is ALL material I used, and NOTHING ELSE. You are either liar, or so unfamiliar with actual Star Wars canon that you don't know what is canon and what EU. Or you never saw/read anything outside of EU, which seems best explanation.

Yet you used EU sources for ships used in your flawed scalings.

 

 

 

1) Power production is fusion, beacouse it is standard in canon. Superlaser is basically technobabble weapon.

Fusion of what?

 

 

 

 

 

4) No, I used MOVIES. And I did my OWN scaling.

Odd, I dont remeber them stating the size of the MF or a rebel transport in canon

 

 

 

5) As above. Did you even notice a link? Or you simply like lying?

As explained above you used EU sources for the sizes of your known objects on top of your unsourced assumptions as to various objects relations between each other, like how you declared the trench to be thrice the size of the docking vestibule, and the trenches on an ISD and SSD to be identical.

 

 

 

6) Everything I scaled I scaled from movies. I have no interest or knowledge in EU aside from that single book I read. And in that book, Death Star is nowhere mentioned.

Yet you used the EU for the sizes of your known objects in your scaling

 

 

 

Or 1 million worlds total. Maximum is 100 000 inhabited worlds.

 

Where? The quotes on your page is subject to interpretation, and you have provided no canon evidence to support your interpretation

 

 

 

 

 

Here:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fusion furnaces power everything, from starships to Podracers. That part is so clear that there should be no discussion about it.

Hyperbole, also a no limit fallacy, and fusion of what? Sun Dragons? Also demonstrates the logical fallacies of division, and hasty generalization.

 

 

 

As for second quote, it shows that Death Star too is powered by fusion - fragments are propelled past ships by "liberated energy of small artificial sun". Well, only thing in common that sun can have with reactor is the way it produces energy - that is, fusion. And if quote was referring to amount of energy, then it would have said "by amount of energy that is liberated by star" or something like that; also, "small, artifical sun" abviously refers to way Death Star's reactor works - that is, fusion, which is also way any living star produces energy, be it standard star, or red giant.

Again, hyperbole, and the logical fallacies of slippery slope, false dilemma, and false dichotomy

 

 

 

As for fusion being standard:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Granted, we are later told that it was fission furnace, but it is nuclear reactor nevertheless.

And what is the energy density of Sun Dragons?

 

 

 

And no, Star Trek and Star Wars are not different, except that Star Trek is relatively more realistic, and tries to explain its technobabble, while Star Wars does not go to such lengths to explain its technology.

Ha Ha hilarious. Some things are just better left unsaid.

 

 

 

Here is for superlaser:

So E=mc^2 is technobabble now? Yet another example of false dichotomy and the related logical fallacies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And where I said that ALL EU numbers are incorrect? WHERE? And I DO NOT use EU, idiot.

You did in your scaling......idiot

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you have problem with being as honest as a politician, with similar IQ (room-temperature level). If you are too lazy (more likely, stupid) to search it, here it is:

 

http://picard578.hos.../exscaling.html

 

Alas, his objections are entirely reasonable, since you used the EU in your scaling, and many of your assumptions are based off of logical fallacies

Wha... Wha... What? My brain hurts now. i have been faced with two impossibilities: Someone stupider than Jason, and teh fact that a Pro-Trek is unwelcome at SFJ.

 

 

 

Mind = Blown

Only when its so bad it makes everyone look more retarded than usual. If he wasnt so rude and tuned down his wank .01% they'd worship him as a god

 

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More evidence idea photon torpedoes some kind shielding is fact we never seen anyone try knock photon torpedoes with phasers or some other kind energy weapons it like need shields to stop them.

Thats because the crews and their targeting computers are retarded. I could say modern artillery shells are shielded for the same reason

Galaxy explodes when something crashes into the deflector dish or warp nacelle

Good riddance, forcible lead poisoning is the only way to go.

 

May his 72 virgins be dead lays, give bad head, and have eternal headaches

http://news.yahoo.co...us/us_bin_laden

 

UFP "armor" appears to be made of spandex or a heavier more resilient cotton-poly blend

If we go with the high ends from the higher canon of both franchises, Pegasus can take several 50 MT nukes to her hull and keep going. ISDs, on the other hand... if they're close cousins to Venators, which they are since the first Imperial SDs were rolled out like one or two years after the Venators apparently, then they don't even approach that. When I mean high ends, I mean viable ones, that is, the higher end of calculations that make sense, not the higher end of total bullshit like that claim of vaporized asteroids in TESB. It's more like calc from the vaporized small town in the ROTS novelization, which I think RSA had put at 6~8 MT per HTL, with of course no proof that such bolts can be fired in rapid fashion - and shouldn't, since they were the shiny hairlines seen from Corsucanti rooftops : you could only see the SPHA-Ts( beams, and those are pre-charged one shot wonders.

 

 

 

In nBSG, we have Cylon Raiders using multi-KT nukes against civilian ships, in the novelization we have Cylon Raiders partaking in the destruction of the colonies which, at that time, were said to be blasted by 50 megaton nukes : we see smaller clouds in The Plan, just like we see big megaton-like ones, we see cluster nukes, but the distant shots from space show

in the gigaton range (Scorpia was hit hard anyway), and in the initial miniseries, we also saw high multi-gigaton bangs on Caprica, so I suppose the megaton level nukes is the proper middle ground. Oh and Basestars are quite robust enough to fly into a planet's atmosphere at a high speed like the Raiders, and the Basestars have only one type of launching ramp-turrets from which they fire all their type of missiles, so saying the MT nukes were much larger than those fired against Battlestars - or something similar - is particularly wrong.

 

 

 

With SW's EU (no ICS), the story is different.

 

All of which is subject to interpretation, as you yourself are fond of crying.

 

 

 

Funnily the standard weapons used during the series use explosive warheads, which were quite capable of hurting battlestars

Ent-nil

So how much would you say would be needed to glass an Earth-sized planet?

 

It depends entirely on what you want the "glass" to mean.

 

 

 

Offhand I'd say Apocalypse class nukes are definitely gigaton range. Beyond that you're into the realm of wank and dodgey assumptions

Pegasus burns down in space after TIE fighters kamikaze the landing bays

Their ships explode when Daemon possessed jem'hadar fighters crash into their warp nacelles

Delta Flyer explodes when a TIE crashes into the warp nacelle

. Rumulan warbird does not need fuel.

You have to feed the black hole something or it wont give off any energy

TIE fighter crashes into the warp nacelle in slo-mo and the GCS exploditates