paul

What kind of science fiction board be without you? An intelligent one. You bring the total IQ count down to negative. So please go fuck yourself with a chainsaw.

you sure you're not talking about yourself?

How much resistance to this application would it meet?

 

Your worst enemy for a long time, the most dangerous force you've ever encountered, all of a sudden wanting to be part of the Federation?

 

Who would accept their petition?

Well I kinda outlined the idea already in STO and started tinkering on the first episode, however this is my thinking behind it and if people think it should go a different way then hell we'll do that Nothing is set in stone at all for the next parts (since this is going to be a very long story)

ATM the federation have sent an ambassador to discuss the situation, however they also sent a ship (ie whoever plays the mission) to look into it first since it's right in the midst of the borg front line. On the planet they found a group of liberated borg (ie hugh) that were willing to work with the federation and help bolster their lines. Now apparently there WAS a group of liberated borg that was totally against working with their worst foe as well, the federation, and tried to put a stop to it. They failed in the first ep but that can easily change as time goes on.

Here is what I was thinking when I already put this mission into place (which again if we all decide a different approach should be taken it takes no effort to rewrite so this will defiantly be a group effort mission arc )

It's now 2411 (game starts in 2409). The Federation is at war with the Klingons (from the looks of it a losing one at that), the Borg, The Romulans, Species 8472, and the Iconians (this hasn't been really introduced yet but it will down the road). They've had run ins with the Breen as well. Starfleet is spread extremely thin across so many battle lines and need help FAST. Thus, when they received communications from a group of liberated borg in the Alini system near the borg "base of operations" so to speak, they were eager to hear them out.

Now I did NOT touch on how other species and another groups in the Federation would take this. And that I think is a big strife that should be prominent. Is them being accepted into the Federation enough to start internal fighting? Would say the Andorians be ok with working side by side by the Borg or would they want to wipe them off their little planet? Would they risk alienating their position in the Federation by striking first?

Really this is where it gets to be interesting. What happens next? What should happen next? I'd like to hear everyones opinion on this

Note: I say liberated borg because they aren't linked to the hive mind. But yes, in the next episode it will hit on how they are still linked together

Can SF people carry swords? Because I wanna see Picard with a rapier, and Sisco with a battleaxe.

Actually yes. There is a nausicaan sword, and we have lirpa's as well. And it's SISKO not Sisco. I could probably do some screenshots of picard and sisko both with a sword...

In STO, phasers can wear down personal forcefields, but then again, so can bat'leths, and targ bites. Seriously, attack targs are a pain in the ass.

bat'leths and targ bites go through personal shields. They do not drain them.

True... but if he would of said Starfleet armor in the 25th century you'd all be boned

Btw my fuckin galaxy-x would PWN the death star.

Yeah you know we have this button called "Insert Media" or you can use the [media] tags...

I know it's new technology compared to some other shit boards that use outdated software so if you have any other questions don't feel shy and just ask

You all do know jason's right about the force field shielding right. well sorta

In the 25th century (2406 to be exact) the corps of engineers makes headway with power cell technology and thus give out personal shield generators to ships as a trial use.

Remember I said this awhile back -

 

So after some discussions with Tyralak, we have decided that the STORYLINE OF EVENTS can be used as a source in debates. What is not considered allowed to be added is any actions done by a player. The reason for this is even CBS wouldn't allow a players action to become anywhere near canon or else.. well lets just say there would be a lot of sexual actions going on ^^. Also, if a series/movie overwrites the 2409 timeline (from STO), that then becomes canon STO becomes non canon. Therefor, as of this point STO is considered "canon" for debate purposes, until a new series takes place after the events of nemesis (STX) which would then change the timeline as written by STO.

 

 

 

So yes, if jason ever popped back up I guess he could have his damn personal shields now lol. As such I should mention that the power levels are designed for a game, not for canon so those will not be allowed to be added into debate as a source.

 

So no, in the 24th century there isn't any really. But just a few years later boop!

Since I'm now over my strep \o/

The new system for authors is being completed and should be functional tomorrow.

*sighs*

All my friends are hookin up with people

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I'm Mr. Loooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy....

By canon going with what's said on air, yes. Starfleet soldiers did have body armor and personal shield generators.

If you're the bitch type that likes to assume that only visual counts then yes you're screwed.

As for it being the normal uniform that's retarded.

Hrm first words that came to my mind were "TEN-HUT" hehehe

Exactly how many people were on that Maquis ship? I would have guessed even less than the nine we need at a minimum to make that work, and we know Voyager took casualties - notably the entire medical staff, the first officer, the chief engineer, and the helmsman.

Ya know.. Good question.

Apparently there were two types of fighters. The type Ro'Laren used and the type "Chuckles" (as Q called him hehe) used.

According to un official sources, his type had 2 decks with crew quarters, sick bay, cargo hold on deck 2. It also states it can hold a crew size of 34. So I SUPPOSE that it was full and thus thats where all the replacements came from *shrugs*

The Intrepid-class USS Voyager had a crew complement of 141 when departing Deep Space 9 in 2371. (VOY: "Caretaker") Throughout the its journey in the Delta Quadrant, the ship operated with a crew of approximately 150.

WTF you talking about? Q2 brought the borg cubes and you could just TELL Janeway was like "Oh fuck me" but she can't say that or show that by screaming "HOLY CRAP WERE GONNA DIE". Her response was to try and fight knowing they're going to die without Q's help.

Threshold = fucking retarded. Hell, they had to come up with an entirely new way to explain warp speeds due to that fuckup. Since in AGT they were going at Warp 14 or whatever.

AS for the stupidity of the plot for the pilot Honestly yeah I've always thought that too lol. There was many ways they could of done both but I finally came to a very simple conclusion -

Yes, they could of beamed tricobalts etc into the station but.. the slight fact they were kinda under fire from the kazon with other ships on the way didn't really give them a ton of time to sit down, have their cup of coffee, plan the detonation, figure out the controls to send them home, punch in the right systems, activate tricboalt bombs, beam over bombs, activate slingshot thingy, slingshot thingy goes, bombs go off and end of series.

Overall though i liked voyager. Threshold i hated. And the 37's (or 34's whatever) episode was kinda meh on. But still great series.

ABSOLUTELY HATED THE ENDING. Left it way too wide opened and I wanted to know wtf happened to everyone =\

It's relative on the ground too.

 

 

 

And I made that same point earlier in the thread and I was ignored. I think they've gone so far off the deep end that they aren't interacting with anyone but the other combatant.

 

 

 

Two immortals, locked in eternal combat.

 

 

 

<Cue Pirates of the Carribean Movie Theme>

Hehehe. Yeaaahh good call on theme music XD

Ya guys do realize that staying put is relative when above ground and in space right?

"What about the game Duke? Was it any good?"

"Yeah, but after 12 years it should be"

So I partially retract my theory. Checking Memory Alpha, the Defiant Class has landing struts so it would be one of the very few starship classes (the other that I can think of is the Intrepid) that can stay in one place in an atmosphere and be able to tractor an object.

 

 

 

Plus in the case of the Defiant, it was able to tractor the ship after modifications were made to the tractor beam and the fact it had the power to do the job since Memory Alpha states that the energy output was equal to those of larger starships.

 

 

 

I'm not saying it is impossible but with some arm twisting I'd say in the case of the E-D's saucer section, if Starfleet somehow decided it needed the saucer off planet and done quickly, they need about two large starships (one could possibly do it but having two is easier to share the load) that are able to land on planet as those type would be equipped to remain stationary within the planet's atmosphere.

The landing struts were never proven in canon so thus is a moot point (which would have no bearing on if it could go INTO a planet's atmosphere or not). They wouldn't need to land to pull a ship out of the ground or in this case remove a saucer section from the planet. They'd just have to be very careful in how they did it.

Newer ships all the way.

While Picard is right that some of the ships (defiant, promethius, intrepid) were designed to out maneuver and avoid being attacked, there was still the heavy hitters (galaxy, sovereign, excelsior etc) that could take an insane beating but could dish out the damage.

omfg this shit thread is still going?

UFP have other handle transporter devices My link.

 

In 2374, Captain Janeway and a holographic recreation of Leonardo da Vinci used a site-to-site transporter to escape from Tau, an interstellar pirate in the Delta Quadrant, who had stolen a number of goods from the USS Voyager, including the transporter. (VOY: "Concerning Flight")

 

So the technology existed the question would UFP have starship build do something that. The answer to question I think yes for archeology missions. Also after Dominion war even UFP did not desing kind technology they still they must likely tug source section saucer back for to be put UFP museum. Across major war fact only already extra Source section and UFP need more then Museum would for war must likely take out build star drive upgrade Source section and send battle.

No where in your ramblings have you even come close to proving they could beam an entire saucer section (which can hold what roughly 900+ people) into space, across the river or two inches over. The Scorpion Fighter which was beamed into the Enterprise E was a dinky friggen thing so yes, it's plausable they could beam a small FIGHTER but you're talking about millions of tons of metal, biomatter, chemicals etc.

Soo bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt Your time is up thanks for playing.

Not by the Federation. The Voth, on the other hand, once beamed Voyager into one of their ships.

Yeah but that was a race that was 80 million years old? So i'd hope they'd be semi more technical than the federation hehe.

And NO jason, they couldn't of gotten this technology before you try to use this as evidence.