Jason

If Space Station likes deep Space Nine could hold on like that against a Kligon fleet then. Then Space station during Yesterday Enterprise would be able to put up a much bigger fight. Klingon Empire ate up more half Starfleet. Then UFP most likely ate up 80% Klingon Empire maybe more.

You are forgetting two things about what happen. Nova class sensors most likely better then most starship in UFP and the Empire. Goal would be to hangar bay and got these plans back. If the Nova class starship blow up in that star destroyer hanger bay while Death Vader in it by by Vader. Maybe even by by star destroyer because smell blast made. As for the force it self can not be used read minds or senses someone going gets sense feeling other people around you but that it.

.I was not saying the war was going great UFP. I was saying that the war worst for the Klingon Empire. It is very possible that the Klingon Empire would force to surrender in two months

Lord Vader want the plans back in one piece. If the ion cannon work and the compters are off line in UFP starship. The UFP starship will blow up. Vader wants plans back in one piece he will not use the iron cannon.

Why were Klingon starship trying so hard to destory USS Enterpise C. Sugestion War going a lot Worst for The Klingon Emprie then UFP.

If the UFP crew could beam of the starship and set off the auto-self-destruct codes blow Nova class starship while Lord Vader is on that Nova class starship. Doing that would most likely do some damage to a Star Destroyer.

Defiant class starships not even have to cloak. As we see many times in Star Terk Federation starship were able to make themselves to be unseen by enemy sensors with very little real information about how they work. I could not see the Death Star being much different.

First a Defiant class starship has landing on deck for My link. The Defiant class alot effect senser jaming systoms on aboard . Other wise you have a lot explaining to do about Valiant was able sneak up on that Jem'Hadar battleship to being with. It is very unlikley that the Death star senser even pick them up. As for landed the Defiant class starship that would be the be the eaisly part. . Beam photon torpodoe reactor will be the hard part.

You forget many things. UFP personal know their ship inside out. All UFP starship so far as I have tunnels thought out that starships. Disable transporters and erase memory all the information would only take a few seconds.

While the ray shield might be able to stop the commandoes from even be able to enter the hole to being with. However if the Defiant class starship land on the Death star surface just side of the trench right were that hole was. I could not see why they could not just beam photon torpedo in right in their.

The "Magnetic Shields by it self is not going to be issues Reble fighters past though Death star Magnetic shield. So I can not see the Magnetic shields got in the way Transpoters once the USS Defient has alreadly pass thought it. I said before Nothing stop A Defient class starship from landed on it over come senser jaming. So I can not see way Transpoters could not be used.

Iron cannon might destroy Nova class starship. Even if does disable the Nova Class starship with out it warp core exploding. I could think some ways they could at least make Vader pay heavy cost. A longer number of UFP crew could use replication TR-116 rifles be beam to places that have no entrance by us of the Transporter. Strom troopers would get hit sniper bullets left and right they not are able see the enemy they are fighting in any case Dark Vader would have to watch his back as will. Also in places people need to craw order for them got their and out could be hiding. After all the UFP weapons so much better fighting on a starship then Star Wars weapons are. Special when places you have to craw to got in and out, They also would be wise for them to disable Transporters before Strom troops broad the Nove class starship could not use them.

Sorry for my disable in ccommunication and spelling but may be I need to better explain way I said what I said. Most population is in the core systems like our own star system . Earth it self has 9 billion it also known people live Mars, Verse our moon and some UFP have at least a base on Titan very possible bases on other moons though solar system. Earth solar system alone could have 30 billion by it self. Archer IV is very likely must heavy population star system 25 light years away Earth UFP and Kiligon. Empire fought a major battle there. Vulcan that is 16 light years away from Earth has a population over most likely to be over six billion and they at least have one colony on a moon. Vulcan system be at this time at least anywhere between 6 to 30 billion. Star system likely to have similar population and quickly close to Earth will unlikely beyond 32 lights years. Look on this page for hours http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Portal:Main

Ray shields are design block enemy weapon not solid objects. So Starfleet commando could use a smell pipe and put thought ray shield and then us the Pattern enhancer to beam in some photon torpedoes. Hay you did not need big hole to do that at all.

UFP did have heavy civilian population living near by Kiligon space during DS9. You tell me that the UFP would have heavily civilian population near by Kiligon space during the time Yesterday Enterprise.

We never saw Pattern enhancer be used while starship shields or in shield place. Then again one might ask another question was there a time we saw them bring pattern enhancer into shield target. However we have see isolinear tag Star Terk (Star Trek: Insurrection) going right thought transport inhibitors and we have seen emergency transport unit so I would say a good bet that Federation Pattern enhancer could do the job as will. Date most likely did known that the shields up.

UFP Way Commander Riker spoke it sounds like battle it sound like Archer IV major victory that was very costly to Kiligon Empire in starships. Another clue why did Kiligon starships try attack USS Enterprise C put it self at some much risk. I they really out gun the USS Enterprise D that badly. Pricard also order them hold fire suggestion that they could hit those starship a lot early.

My link Got to this site you will find these lines to back my clain. On Scimitar B-4 enters and tells the Reman guard that Shinzon wants the prisoner. As the guard releases Picard, B-4, actually Data posing as B-4, gives the Reman a Vulcan nerve pinch to incapacitate him. After completely freeing Picard, Data tells Picard that Scimitar is, for all intents and purposes, an enormous thalaron generator. He also tells Picard that the information he gave Shinzon was false, created by himself and La Forge. He then offers Picard the prototype of the emergency transport unit that La Forge gave him. Since it will only work for one person, Picard says he and Data will find a way off together.

I am not even sure any civilians were in the line fire to being with. UFP main been able most civilians’ population out of away from the war zoon. It also possible a longer amount fighting was also happen worlds near by Kiligon territory. I put video Youtupe on another issues on Star Terk that shows that map . Subject is How bad the war going for Kiligon Empire.

No after Date getting into the place Pricard being held a prisoner and Dater had disable that enemy doctor. If it could not Date aiming to kill Pricard first.

That YouTube link has smell part shows a map of Federation and Kiligon Empire.

I am not so sure that ray shield for that matter would stop the Pattern enhancer. In Star Trek Nemesis the smell emergency transport unit device could beam though shields then I think Pattern Enhancers could also beam though ray shields. Otherwise it would have been suicide for Caption Picard to use that device that Date was offering him.

First Federation has also had Sydney-class were used as Transports we do not known how many people any different class of Federation military Transports I hope they would able to carries more 6 thousand soldiers and they may will be able to carries a few millions soldiers into battle who known. First most Kiligon males are warriors and train foot soldiers to say the least. So whatever their population may be 45% most likely soldiers. With this logic put in places UFP fighting a lot ground battle with a lot foot soldiers being used.

The only reason the USS Enterprise D destroys three them was because standing grounding USS Enterprise C and taking all of the fire from those Bird of prey. Watch the the flime here and look map it look Federations more ship location near by Kligon space http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST-y5H3QQUw&NR=1

Yes but that not evidence that the hole in that death star is rayshielded.