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Roddenberry's/Jeffries' "Rules" of Star Trek ship design
Kilroy replied to Kilroy's topic in The Mental Gymnasium
Right, very true. But my musings were on the reasons for the way the Jeffries designs were set up, from the TOS E to the Phase II E (which only underwent very minor cosmetic revisions to become the TMP E). Spot on about the All Good Things 1701-D, though, and you're right -- most of the ships we see with more than 2 nacelles (such as the Constellation class in TNG and the Prometheus class in VOY) have 4. -
Roddenberry's/Jeffries' "Rules" of Star Trek ship design
Kilroy posted a topic in The Mental Gymnasium
So apparently Gene Roddenberry and Matt Jeffries, when developing the design of the original Enterprise, had some very definite rules about starship designs for the show. (I'm setting aside the fact that in all but a few notable cases, TOS starships tended to follow the "abstract blob of flashing lights" aesthetic.) Here are a few as best I can articulate them: 1. Even numbered warp nacelles only 2. Nothing between the warp nacelles Those are actually the only ones I'm thinking of (please remind me of more of them, if you know). But why am I bringing this up? Because it suggests to me how the engines are intended to work (within the ficton, of course.) If you notice on the TOS Enterprise nacelles, there are the usual "vents" and/or "grilles" that we see on later Starfleet ships, too. On the TOS version, they appear only on the inboard side of a nacelle, whereas on the TMP refit they appear on both sides. On the TMP refit, however, we see the inboard grilles glow for the first time -- but only faintly, and only as the ship jumps into warp. So why have the grilles on the TOS nacelles be inboard-facing only, and why have the space between them empty? I think that a combination of ideas explain this. The grilles facing each other is part of how the drive was meant to work. The field generated by each individual nacelle collides with the field generated by the other in order to form the warp bubble. Have the grilles face outboard and they don't collide against anything -- it's wasted power. Same with a single nacelle, or a third nacelle. And thus also the reason you don't have anything between the nacelles -- not only could you perhaps not form a warp bubble, but the shearing of space in that spot would tear anything that's there atom from atom. I'll have to remind myself to do a separate post on why the Star Trek design aesthetic from 1987 onward has been to make Absolutely. EVERYTHING. glow neon blue as if every Starfleet ship launched from the 24th century onward has been a flying radiological disaster. -
My favorite long-arm: The Mk 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle My favorite PDW: The H&K MP7 My favorite shotgun: The Kal-Tec KSG-12 Favorite sidearm: Kimber Desert Warrior .45
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I believe that does indeed qualify as bizarre. Possibly even creepy.
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I had a weird-ass dream about standing in a delivery room watching a live birth. Which is... gross. Except in the dream, it was Linda Carter giving birth. And what she gave birth to was a cheeseburger. So I started eating the cheeseburger, and she was screaming, and everybody was mad at me and I think somebody called me a dingo 'cause I ite heh bibey.
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I laughed until i fell off my butt.
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Reconciling Star Trek: Enterprise's and TOS's disparate design aesthetics
Kilroy posted a topic in The Mental Gymnasium
So as you will recall if you've seen both Star Trek and Star Trek: Enterprise, the NX-01 looks anachronistically "advanced" compared to NCC-1701, both on the inside and on the outside. So here's my mental gymnastication (muwhahaha) to explain the apparent anachronism: NCC-1701's exterior is ruggedized. Simple as that. Thicker hull, possibly armored in some way, with all the greeblies packed on the inside instead of sticking out on the exterior. When it comes to the displays and control surfaces -- I admit this one is more of a stretch -- the "visual record" (and we know that we keep them as per "The Menagerie") obfuscates the displays and control surfaces to prevent hostile nation-states from scrubbing through the footage and getting information from it that Starfleet doesn't want them to have. So the control surfaces only look like colored jelly beans and the displays only appear to reflect uninformative primary-colored blinking lights because those portions of the footage have undergone the 23rd century version of having been pixelated.