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Of course all agree Care bears little bellies able to do much against either these foes. Even care bear stair might have some effect aliens.

Let big part problem first if UFP losing or my theory UFP winning thing start turn around in Yesterday Enterprise timeline not be important the point war over by the time Enterprise C end in that timeline USS Enterprise D guessing she there not some other UFP starship would welling send Enterprise C crew suicide mission when Klignon and UFP war over. Klingon Empire likely surrender part reason war going so badly UFP was they so overconfident not take Klingon seriely. I maybe the Caption guess ethic reason allow return complete mission because they want to. Next of course Q send the USS Enterpise D there now problem own right. Q try save the UFP. Differnt send the USS Enterpise D face Borg Cube powerful enough escape Cube entire Q who might happen. Since Q very reason not happen. Remember the Borg get knowelege from the Star Trek ENT Regeneration. Q trying save Federation striangt ways way. Now we go to Best of Both worlds the Borg try chase USS Enterprise D which is this point level well armed 100 years more advance as TOS starship must areas. Borg not going have easily time here. We demand Pircard. USS Enterprise D answer fire phaser hit Borg hard enough to escape. Hand phaser might well set levels make Borg unable to adapt. USS Enterprise D turn main defector dish into weapon by by Borg Cube. Star Trek first contact USS Enterprise D because part that USS Enterprise D if better armed UFP did real research military able not just scientific research used rogue BOP for target practice even shield down it over seconds. Bother try force it to cloak. USS Enterprise D fighting along side rest fleet. Something like 10 years more advance it likely blow Borg Cube sky high. This what think happen what do thin happen guys.

First idea Klingon Empire conquest entire UFP when Dominion did had trouble doing it. On top that beside question able the two case we had were Klingon Empire either at war between TNG and Deep Space Nine. Aims conquest few star systems to entire UFP. Klingon Empire aims war before TMP during Star Trek undiscovered country conquest big piece Territory rather split it. Goals in Star Trek Deep Space Nine UFP was at war Klingon Empire long group star systems not entire UFP. If UFP defeat still meant that Klingon Empire able to conquest entire UFP and on top that having aim to.No evidnece suggestion cannon Klingon Empire had either of them.

Vader advance ties without question had shields. Tie intercept first it upgrade after Return of the Jedi with them accord old EU. Tie bomber I going say we did not know one way or other. Accord old EU yes they had but that unknown. Yes how big is one shield generations for tie fighter or X-wings. Might add little weight not a lot besides each tie figher last long fight able destroy more. Any case it had do why Rebel able to stand up Empire was because Empire design Tie fighter dirt cheap. ISD for some unknown reason design them cheap to remember Vader personal Star destroyer crash into Death star caught on fire instead while crashing in. Some engineering should done something it possible and no one do suggestion everything control bridge include able not light once self on fire.

Star War Empire in practice won the battle of Yavin IV if all Ties had shields. Shield allow star fighter in practice to take 2 to 3 hits before being destroyed. Shield fighter it take just one hit that it. One direction hit is enough to destroy single tie fighter. If the Tie fighter escort Vader when he was trying shoot down Luke were shield would give Vader a few seconds. That all time Vader would have need to take out Luke. Then their goes the Rebel base.

So Death star and star destoyer are cheap replace. Remeber if all ties had shields Empire blow Rebal base not the Rebal blow up the Death star. It save lot more money in cost give every tie fighter shields to then to have to build another death star to replace it.

I think enough change entire outcome Yavin IV.

First move been the last is simple way put if all tie fighter shields all likelihood shoot down all Rebel fighters or at least Vader shoot down Luke skywalker. Han,Luke and rest of the team would wipe out stromtroopers when the fighter start since Stormtrooper armor provide some real protect against blasters. So movie been hour long with Empire have the death star plans.

It kind a cartoon show about Earth to trying lower the human population so resistance that able to throw mankind in space. However air 1994 until 2000. I not so convice those types of bugs realistic stand up to USA military none or less the World military. First thing is hit our civilian population areas by surprising surly lead to shock and AW. On other hand great deal of drones and Modular Advanced armed Robotic system. These machine design able to kill and control operation. Also machine even be design to hit the core and be able to scan for it. For that matter even Gender blue had some automatic robot system that simple power issue. Today that not be issue. here a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Gender

I kind like pin all group against the Predators and Aliens. Did give none sense go without know face my idea have example Predator verse Aliens two. Predator ship crash land in 1995 in Pakistan isolation area they like first response since the Predator and aliens both threat to environment to the say the least.

Planeteers rings lethal against Aliens can see wind or fire or Earth likley water be good for Aliens hit by. As for Predators that trickly one child us hearts at least use his control animals. Also all water fly every wear it could disable the cloak device Predator wears. One control water make water keep going around.

FIrst is the human build space stations Jupture space station for example. Human build other space station orbit the Earth.Also the human the able send long range misson another star system colonies with conveys before Earth destory surly set secert colonies only Captions on HUman starfleet know about before Earth was destroyed. Other side is Human protect the Earth from Xindi super weapon. With amount time it took fire Xindi super weapon fact NX ENteprise able watch as it destory why no surface defense answer back in kind blast XIndi super weapon to space dust. Trip with something 20 people able build something 2 phase cannon less then a day. Had least three dry docks and combine one other space stations that cannon. All likehood we not heard about. Even just three upgrade the much big phaser base weapons systems enough destory ship hit by or even Xindi super weapon itself. NX Enterpise able pick XIndi weapon Star Trek twlight unable to do anything about. Be location planetery surface defense or orbit defense response blast it to space dust done the trick.

It not like Starfleet did not know that Earth target they did. Only thing real did was send NX Enterprise out try convince not to. Thing I done if I was charge first build fortified space station must state art weapon systems that heavy armed and fortified space station they had. For example least one space station orbit Jupture. Armed it to teeth the same rest of them. Long range powerful weapons. Also build fortified space station orbit the sun arm weapon greatest bang for the buck. Also spread the population itself around having. NX Enterprise more powerful all but one Xindi race. Space station like take fleets worth of attacks simple heavy weapons and more power to weapon first place. One station able to withstand attack for 30 of warship send to attack Earth. Last thing done try make sure human population was spread out much possible in solar system and beyond. Work having more secret location as well Twilight the human longer topic secret location done way before hand.

UFP soldier armed hand granades like saw Voyager, mortars and phaser rifle. Imperial foot soldiers have two AT-AT 4 walker scouts have 1,000 starwar stromtroopers to operation vechile and provide fire support. First the Mortars themselves like turn Imperial scout walkser to dust in number seconds. Hit top of AT-AT it might withstand not bottom. Blast by itself total destory one. Lead to match the stromtrooper forfied area take surival with long range motar support Impereal foot solder doom.

THis many sound like unfair fight the Star War strom trooper would simple much harder time kill UFP foot soldiers then other way around. UFP solder when she hit did not go flying backword unlike the both Bajor we see that happen other hit Klingon disrupter fire. At amount force Klingin disrupter deliever by average about same amount hand granade making someone going flying. Stromtrooper blast deliver no were near that live punch energy base weapon. Phaser rifle without question kill Storm trooper.

First we can agree first 100 stromtrooper are died likely 200 wound just hand grenades alone. Then come down were they fighting. If cover and able do fighting retreat. Us good tactics UFP soldier us grenade when they need to. This lead must death possible on other side. Sadly have to agree you that UFP soldier would lose not take down something 300 Stromtrooper down with them. Meaning not like can fight 30 to one come out top it more like they can successful fight more then 100 to one hover.

Look top did point out hand granade we saw Caption Jameway us in Star Trek Voyager this vidoe last 20 secounds of it see what I mean. The granade that Jameway used powerful enough damage Holodeck itself. Or better yet if so wish proven point even more so you can watch Star Trek Voyager macocosm from last 2 minutes of it see deck shack little bit shockwave. Not the least Jameway hid behind area deck dock for cover.

Bigger problem training lead bad tantic. Stromtrooper basic train fight weaker foe and do effectively. Stromtrooper armor may provide some protect against blasters low lose Stromtrooper face taking Rebel on blockade runner back that claim. We see Star Trek armor be able resistence phaser fire. Star trek TNG we saw Security offier fire twice bring down Klignon warroir armor provide some protect against hand phaser. More improtnat type soldier taking once defend Relay station and fought Klignons in Star Trek Deep Space nine. Star Trek basic unifrom might provide protect against blasters . UFP combat unifrom would without question do it. Klingon uniform the samething. If Klingon unifrom could stop a phaser shoot lower setting they could stop blater shoot lower setting to Blaster much weaker weapons UFP soldier uniform is has at least some phaser and disrupter resistence. UFP Soldier take cover were ever it is available in hand granade Jameway used do heavy damage to holodeck. Blast at miminal be enough take out 10 stromtrooper piece. Means UFP soldier find smellest cover the stormtrooper tantic themsleves lead defeat. They just defeat hand granades and phaser rifles.

I better or worst put bet the Arachids with using good tantic see them over power Alien and they not act stupied per a say. Arachid stander foot solider lot stronger Alien stand foot solider. Brian bug is someways smarter then normal human. Lose leg would not per say even limit combat effectiveness. Arachid is stronger by far then Xenomorph push leg though lose still combat effective even with acid destory one leg. At first might lose few at first Brian bug would change plans.

I have take word in book it possible likley smarter. As for the movie only thing give secound though question effective acide be on a bug soldier. Why never see starship trooper armed type acid sprey bring own. We also saw a gaint one bug soldier armed with acide sprey own. Not like starship trooper weapon ineffective on the battle field either. I am talk in the movie. They did not try design effective ways of bring down enemies. Would the Xenomorph acide be effective against stander bug foot soldier is my bigger question.

Xenomorph biggest advance is it acid like blood. The Archie advice it lot tough build. It normal took few starships trooper to take down a single Archie effective at a time. Normal took multi-shoots bring single Archie down on top that it had the strength go right though thick shell that giant Archie stander foot soldier Archie we having face Xenomorph. With fact Space Marrinies in Aliens able take single Alien out one shoot. I have to say that the Archie is lot tough then Xenomroph bring down and can deliver. On other hand individual Archie solider is stupid to the next level know fight does not know how to plan. Xenomroph is smart able us human equipment able us against though Marines.Xenmoroph could plan even the movie Alien 1 we saw it plan little. Xenmoroph into plan like be thing decide out come. Simple let the Archie bit it piece tail and then let acid do rest. Acid likley powerful enough bring down the Archie by itself. How do you guys think it turn out.

Possible reasons first is that biological infect. That three Klingon warship charging into USS Enterprise D after Klingon face heavy lose in battle Archer IV. Riker statement they not be so confederate special pacing we gave Archer IV suggestion Klingon face pretty heavy lose. No way suggestion UFP winning it does suggestion that Klingon take to many Archer IV defeats still win the war. Klingon simple recourse equipment all starships cloak device. Order stay in the war they simple need start down grade ships. USS Enterprise C itself effect Klingon Empire to point Klingon question war itself with the UFP. Klingon on board these warship disable cloak device. I be interest other possible theories.

At first one thing system Pircard would have used stop Klingons. Special after warp core going to blow rammed the none saucer into one BOP would been smart. 1. Pircard need all the power the USS Enteprise D give even when warp core going to blow. USS Enteprise D in pratice turn all three Klingon ships to space dust with her phaser banks. It only took few minutes at must charge. Last few secounds of the battle Klingon fire bridge USS Enterpise D not firing back. Note Fact Klingon trying destory USS Enteprise D bridge is evidnece pretty dispeartemetn get onto starship go blow. I always found evidnece for boi attacks. 2. UFP design Galaxy class battleship without the able saucer seperation. Only reason think is lot quick able to build more Galaxy class battleship. One could make the arguement little us for it that argue fail to take account lose half ship is better lose entire ship. So militery stand point still make sense. We can rule out much bigger phaser bank simple fact able fire phaser all dirction. Many differnt phaser banks bigger heavey phaser made. Last arguement is amount of time likley value having compare amount time take to build Galaxy class battleship. It took the UFP over a year put USS Enteprise D into sevice. UFP able build space frame in numbers months even so take UFP nearly year to get Galaxy class into sevice. It is possible save few months doing it without saucer seperation ables.

Point is the Xindi beam commandoes board partty on NX Enterpise. Very smell team top of that. Something like 4 solders and something at least which by chance overpower few starfleet officer get in the way. Which had to do lot bad luck for people on that ship. Let say for a secound one crew member injured not injured or they get sickbay or Archer and T,pol were able led a hand or MACO for that matter. Entire fire fight might been Xindi team wipe out. Let another question why such smell team first place. Why 4 why 10 for example one might argue limit transporter techology. Problem argue is that they beam much longer team in when Commando team took out super weapon it on Xindi ship. Another answer the human just simple over power them. Accord Star Terk alpla it held crew 22 personal. THye could possible easily beam 10 MACO done the job very nicly. End of the days does real matter. Does it matter that mankind successful halt that fleet or not? It depend few factor first did rest of XIndi council want do full scale attack against mankind after earth destory that only 2 races. First answer with what we know been two race. XIndi design super weapon only design only goal help with destory earth. Fact the Xindi did not us vortex get much longer fleet to attack colony also back claim since Primate verse one not taking part attack two races were of Xindi specail need help. Fact they did us it back the claim that Primate not backing. So real out another super weapon as the answer. On other hand they could very likley build much bigger fleet that simple over whelm the humans. So at end of the day it would have not matter.

I found about three possible He join section 31 in Yesterday Enterpise timeline He saw the battle Archer IV differntly very differnt view out come of the war. He had tough ethic issue doubt about mission a successful. The UFP big fish fire and end of day surreinder Klingon perfer another enemy they had like the Borg for example. Ethic argue pretty weak he not opposed idea send the USS Enterpise C back if she was rearmed.As for lives go many more death happen 125 if war allow go on. Battle of Archer IV way Riker stated they not be so confident special after the pacing we gave them at Archer IV. Bad enough that 2-10 of those kind victory change the tide war. Pricard did not per say face or anything confirm or denied. He was member Section 31 or had join it. Well he had no issue send back USS Enterpise C rearmed. His easily prevent Enteprise C return rule out him being possible spie. Fact he even in favor of send USS Enteprise C back rearmed redlight own right know section 31 very likley member of it. Very possible must of crew starship test that phase cloak device join section 31 even spoil plans. Term us that espidoe both fit into section 31 not into any know part of starfleet. Starfleet security and Starfleet intellegnce. Section 31 does both they do spying and they do black ops operation against enemies even have own fleet. Since USS Enterpise D crew over came problem so could have that crew done. Let say for secound that Borg had show up much agressive in Yesterday Timeline. After all Borg attack UFP in the normal timeline destory few outpost way before Yesterday Enterpise espidoes was show. It very likley UFP did have resourse fight both the Borg and Klingon Empire. Any victory might have well been litlte political vicotry Klingon Empire get hundrend light years more space few exchange terrioires. Klingon Empire likely well fight a war to point even if likleyhood get assimimlate end of the day fight odds. Two people see thing very differnt Riker could view ok surreinder Klingon Empire give few star systems here there. We much stronger militery since war last 20 years or so able put better fight. Pircard view might been though peaceful UFP not been war combine way Klingon Empire works better able handle borg. Of course I am interst other possible reasons why Riker was opposed send back USS Enteprise C with out rearm her.